I think by june 2005 cotto has a good chance of beating any of the 140 pound fighters even by KO Floyd is good but I never saw floyd got hit with a clean hard shot to the chin Thats why I think cotto has a shot Because I saw that kid take many great shots that Floyd never tasted yet and cotto can hit with tramendous Power
cotto maybe still too green and he is not as technically sound as mayweather (but who is ?) , BUT he weighs 154 pounds at fight night , against a natural 135pounder like pbf , that is a huge size advantage , plus COTTO has all the tools , he does everything right and if he took bailey right hand ( i saw it live , it hits harder than most middleweights) PBF can t hurt him.
i say cotto by UD , winning the last rounds by pressure and physical strenght.
PBF kills him. Mayweather has so many weapons and Cotto hasn't even faced a fighter with half the skill of Mayweather. I don't think this fight would be good for business, but if it does take place, Mayweather would beat him so bad, that it will erase any doubt a to who the superior fighter is..
You just said yourself. Cotto hasn't fought a top guy at jr. welter because he's not ready. Floyd's defense is superior. Cotto won't be able to land a clean punch on him because of his style. He'll make the green rookie look silly & counter punch him all night. Cotto might be stronger, but not more talented or more ring savy.
I was being sarcastic regarding your reference to him as an up & comer. FBF likes to showboat against the ropes......That will be his undoing. Cotto breaks the other guys by body shots, then the head. PBF has not come up against a guy who is as methodical as Cotto.
After the fight, he'll be renamed, Ugly Boy Floyd. In any event, he needs a good hiding. He's too big headed for his own good! His attitude is spilling over into his domestic life as well. If he carries on in the manner in which he is now doing so, he is heading for a jail term.
He started off like a great, clean cut kid....He's ending up like a chump!
Wow...I must have hit the nail right on the head. Cotto did run a train on your mother...that or you are juicing steroids. The only things that would explain that violent overreaction. Its not that you "just said he'd have to step up his competition", you've been crusading on every thread that Cotto's name has been brought up on saying that he's fought nobody and couldn't possibly beat anyone until he actually does it. That's the whole point with these threads fucktard....you are supposed to speculate based on the styles and talents of fighters as to who would win a fight between the two. You say some stupid bullshit like, "how you do know if someone is talented?"...it was a dumbfuck question because anybody with eyes and an IQ above 60 could tell you he has loads of boxing talent.
Seriously, I've been a huge fan of Cotto for a long time and have openly backed him when discussing a possible fight with any fighter. I never say he is going to walk through any fight with ANY of the top 140 guys. He's still somewhat inexperienced but he has what it takes to beat all of these guys. So call me whatever you like but you are the so called idiot who sounds like a little boy. I'm quite sure many Cotto fans would say that he could beat any of the top 140 pounders in the near future as well, unless they are fair-weather fans like you seem to be.
What are you talking about? I never said his opponents have been near the quality of VK's...so what do you mean?
I don't know what kind of internet thugs you have run into...but if they sounded like me they wouldn't be very thuggish. I hit you with TRUTH, and you couldn't handle it. I guess we just have to agree to disagree about Cotto DLT.
Your still talking like a littile boy. A real man doesnt say something about someone's mother the first time someone disagree's with them. You havent read all my post on every thread about Cotto because if you did then you would know that I like him. I would pick him against Gatti, Hatton and have a 50-50 with Harris. Gatti and Hatton havent really beaten anyone either and Harris has beat some good but not great boxers. All I said is that Im sick of people saying after he beats people like Pinto and Baily that he would kill Floyd or that he will dominate this division or that he would destroy Chico. All those things are taking it way too far. He looks good but the guys he has beat are not elite enough to say that he can beat Mayweather, Chico, or dominate the division. If he fights Chop next then we will find out how good he really is
im not sure if cotto could beat mayweather
and im not sure if mayweather could beat cotto
If that makes any sense?
but style wise
i think floyd takes an edge on cotto
cotto likes to come in
and floyd likes to cover up and counter
so either cottos hits would be too much
or floyds counters would be too quick and sharp
i wouldnt know who to pick in this one
but id love to see it
Stop trying to sound like a internet thug, pussy. Just because I say he needs to step up first that makes you say that he will have to be Klischko before I give him some credit. Your a idiot. Im sorry, your right, his opponents have been close to Klitschko's level. What is wrong with me saying that he has to beat someone first before Im going to pick him to beat a #for# guy, clown. Stop sucking his dick. You cant judje how good someone is until they fight someone good moron. What would any of the top guys have done to Pinto and Baily. You sound like a littile boy. Even the hardest Cotto fans dont go as far as you
Wow...I must have hit the nail right on the head. Cotto did run a train on your mother...that or you are juicing steroids. The only things that would explain that violent overreaction. Its not that you "just said he'd have to step up his competition", you've been crusading on every thread that Cotto's name has been brought up on saying that he's fought nobody and couldn't possibly beat anyone until he actually does it. That's the whole point with these threads fucktard....you are supposed to speculate based on the styles and talents of fighters as to who would win a fight between the two. You say some stupid bullshit like, "how you do know if someone is talented?"...it was a dumbfuck question because anybody with eyes and an IQ above 60 could tell you he has loads of boxing talent.
Seriously, I've been a huge fan of Cotto for a long time and have openly backed him when discussing a possible fight with any fighter. I never say he is going to walk through any fight with ANY of the top 140 guys. He's still somewhat inexperienced but he has what it takes to beat all of these guys. So call me whatever you like but you are the so called idiot who sounds like a little boy. I'm quite sure many Cotto fans would say that he could beat any of the top 140 pounders in the near future as well, unless they are fair-weather fans like you seem to be.
What are you talking about? I never said his opponents have been near the quality of VK's...so what do you mean?
I don't know what kind of internet thugs you have run into...but if they sounded like me they wouldn't be very thuggish. I hit you with TRUTH, and you couldn't handle it. I guess we just have to agree to disagree about Cotto DLT.
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What is it with this shit? Did Miguel and his boys run a train on your mother or something? If you cannot see that Cotto has extreme amounts of natural talent and sound boxing ability then you are BLIND or just being ignorant. Your argument that he hasn't shown his ability against anybody worthy is played out dude. Nothing I'm going to say to you is going to make you think any different because you are essentially closed minded to the subject. He's going to have to beat Klitschko for the HW title before you give him any respect. And don't say, "well he's unproven so how do you know he has any skill", because where would the world be if we all waited until someone had loads success before we got behind them? We'd all be jumping on the bandwagon...
Stop trying to sound like a internet thug, pussy. Just because I say he needs to step up first that makes you say that he will have to be Klischko before I give him some credit. Your a idiot. Im sorry, your right, his opponents have been close to Klitschko's level. What is wrong with me saying that he has to beat someone first before Im going to pick him to beat a #for# guy, clown. Stop sucking his dick. You cant judje how good someone is until they fight someone good moron. What would any of the top guys have done to Pinto and Baily. You sound like a littile boy. Even the hardest Cotto fans dont go as far as you
:cool: How do you know Cotto has all those things. He looks good in all those catagory's against c level fighters. I want to see how accurate he is or how good his d is against top notch fighters before I'll say that he has any chance against Floyd
What is it with this shit? Did Miguel and his boys run a train on your mother or something? If you cannot see that Cotto has extreme amounts of natural talent and sound boxing ability then you are BLIND or just being ignorant. Your argument that he hasn't shown his ability against anybody worthy is played out dude. Nothing I'm going to say to you is going to make you think any different because you are essentially closed minded to the subject. He's going to have to beat Klitschko for the HW title before you give him any respect. And don't say, "well he's unproven so how do you know he has any skill", because where would the world be if we all waited until someone had loads success before we got behind them? We'd all be jumping on the bandwagon...
I think if this goes down in summer/fall of 2005 and Cotto has one big fight beforehand, he will be able to beat Floyd. Floyd won't know what to do with a fighter who is quick, great defensively, accurate, and powerful. On top of it all he's patient and composed...Floyds defense won't fluster him the way it did Corrales. Cotto works so well to the body, in fact, well enough to the point where he would have the luxury of PBF standing in front of him later on in the fight. Cotto also cuts the ring off like a vet. This is one fight PBF does not want.
How do you know Cotto has all those things. He looks good in all those catagory's against c level fighters. I want to see how accurate he is or how good his d is against top notch fighters before I'll say that he has any chance against Floyd
I think if this goes down in summer/fall of 2005 and Cotto has one big fight beforehand, he will be able to beat Floyd. Floyd won't know what to do with a fighter who is quick, great defensively, accurate, and powerful. On top of it all he's patient and composed...Floyds defense won't fluster him the way it did Corrales. Cotto works so well to the body, in fact, well enough to the point where he would have the luxury of PBF standing in front of him later on in the fight. Cotto also cuts the ring off like a vet. This is one fight PBF does not want.
you call beating a has been in Baily and a never was in Pinto establishing himself
LOL!!! Cotto's people have been really careful bringing him up. Hand-picking his opponents from blown up lightweights to limited jr. welters. If he's the truth, I'd like to see him take on Vivian Harris. Alot of people believe he's ready. The toughest fight he had was against N'Dou & he took Cotto to the limit, & N'Dou was injured. Harris is bigger, stronger, & way more rounded than N'Dou. Too bad none of the top jr. welters won't fight him so we can find out just how good he is.
I'm not PR, and I think Cotto has a hell of a chance to beat Mayweather. Cotto is establishing himself well. I wouldnt call him a prospect anymore. I am very impressed with this kid.
you call beating a has been in Baily and a never was in Pinto establishing himself
is this thread fukin serious?
Cotto is still a green prospect who hasnt fought any one near PBF level. Only the PRs think Cotto has a chance.If you put him in there w/PBF or KT it'llbe Fernado Vargas part II! :mad:
I'm not PR, and I think Cotto has a hell of a chance to beat Mayweather. Cotto is establishing himself well. I wouldnt call him a prospect anymore. I am very impressed with this kid.
Sorry, I have to disagree. Cotto will kill him. Cotto's defense is far too good for Mayweather to affect the issue. Two or three good cracks and Mayweather will be on the run.
If, as you say, Cotto is an up & comer....Hell, I'd like to see him in against ANY of the top guys! At 140....nobody is in his class!
You just said yourself. Cotto hasn't fought a top guy at jr. welter because he's not ready. Floyd's defense is superior. Cotto won't be able to land a clean punch on him because of his style. He'll make the green rookie look silly & counter punch him all night. Cotto might be stronger, but not more talented or more ring savy.
I'll back cotto if this fight ever happens. Cotto simply will be too big and have enough experience behind him by the time this fight takes place. No shoulder-rolling from Floyd will help against the power and accuracy cotto brings to the ring.
Would be a good fight though!!