In his recent interview with HBO Latino, Barrera who was still fresh from his victory over Erik Morales in November said, "For 2005, a bout with Manny Pacquiao is my top priority. Yet, we will have to wait and see, he has a fight with Juan Manuel Marquez he needs to win first and that is not an easy fight for him."
By the sound of it, it seems that Barrera was hesitant to stake his newly regained status against Pac unless the latter gets past Marquez.
C'mmon Marco, the guy dealt you the most humiliating loss in your boxing career, and yet you sounded like you were not interested in redeeming yourself?
Whatever happened to your pride as a warrior?
Why must you pacman nutlickers must twist every Pacman foe's statement into some bullshit about how they are afraid! Im sick of this shit, dint you phucking see that he said it was his TOP PRIORITY! :mad:
Ooooo top priority?? THEN IT MUST BE TRUE!!! :rolleyes:
to answer some of the question at present the PI have one p4p or champion, but there are bunch of guys who are prospects just wait for them it wont be a loooongtime as some here suggests ...
"if you haven't fought here then your nobody" this is one of the sad thing in boxing you have to fight in the USA to be globally recognized, 7000 miles is a long way to take a fight and not to many fighters from Asia are given the chance ....
"To even suggest that there is better competion outside of America is laughable", this is another sad one, its not that there is a better competion outside of the USA where most of the best boxer congregate, but it is the lack of scouting for talent eastward...
you got injin chi out from nowhere, he gave EM a fight...
you got pac out of nowehere, he gave MAB a beating and fought JMM in a classic fight....
so how many more chis or pacuiaos are out there, we may never know if they will not be given the chance to prove themselves and give the competition in the US a run for their money... http://www.boxingscene.com/media/data/518/12176peace_350.gif
How is this racist? Someone calling themselves Black Jesus, why do you have to make it a point that Jesus is black? I'd like to know who has the inferiority complex here?
Its just a user name, there is no point to prove.
all you die hard Pac fans make it seem that Pac is unstopable and will walk all over Marquez.. that may be the case if he smoothers JMM counterpunching style.. listen.. im a PAC fan also and proud to be a FIL-AM.. but as of right now, my bet is on JMM... JMM is in shape, he is focused for Feb 26, no distractions, and his style is perfect for Pacs all out, aggressive style.. IMO the 3k fight did not prove anything.. he still has the power and speed, but it is obvious that he still needs work on his right... i noticed his use of the right hook and thats a plus.. but he needs to work on that jab.. i see the fight 60-40 for JMM right now.. Pac needs to get to work and focus on the fight.. i hope he proves me wrong coming Feb 26th.. Go Pac!
Logical Answer.
all you die hard Pac fans make it seem that Pac is unstopable and will walk all over Marquez.. that may be the case if he smoothers JMM counterpunching style.. listen.. im a PAC fan also and proud to be a FIL-AM.. but as of right now, my bet is on JMM... JMM is in shape, he is focused for Feb 26, no distractions, and his style is perfect for Pacs all out, aggressive style.. IMO the 3k fight did not prove anything.. he still has the power and speed, but it is obvious that he still needs work on his right... i noticed his use of the right hook and thats a plus.. but he needs to work on that jab.. i see the fight 60-40 for JMM right now.. Pac needs to get to work and focus on the fight.. i hope he proves me wrong coming Feb 26th.. Go Pac!
How is this racist? Someone calling themselves Black Jesus, why do you have to make it a point that Jesus is black? I'd like to know who has the inferiority complex here?
My god your a joke.
As much as you hate Pacman fans (hopefully not all of them), it will always be good for boxing. It was the same way Mexican gloated and bragged when JCC came into the spotlight. (And maybe the way boricuas treated Tito) These types of fighters are rare ( im not comparing pacman with JCC ) but Filipinos have other fighters to root for. (not the way you percieve that Filipinos wait for a looooong time for champions to come out). Asian fighters tends to dominate the lower weights which is unpopular in the U.S. , the reason why you don't think there are other "Champions" in the Philippines. Peace
Name me all the Filipino World Champions please. Last time I checked there was 1.
I should have put "Puerto Ricans" in there, my mistake. Well P4P is a list, different people put different names in there. In the "American" based P4P list, it would be a surprise to see a fighter who never fought in the U.S to be there. Hmmmmm.... actually I dont know anybody who hasn't fought in the U.S. to be there. It's simply sad coz its 7000 miles away from "real" boxing media. You need to be extra talented with lots of "who you know" kinda thing to get you the recognition you deserve. Had pacman not replace that guy who was to fight Ledwaba in the U.S., would you think boxing fans would have known him? Anyway.......got to go :) :)
Hate to break it to you, but if you haven't fought here then your nobody. Do you know why? because this is where the best fighters in the world are. To even suggest that there is better competion outside of America is laughable, not saying you did, but thats how you move up a p4p list by fighting other top guys.
all the biggest foriegn stars have to come here to prove themselves. Lewis, Hamed, Duran, Chavez, Pac...etc.
The nerves of some people, you don't have to look too far on who's following who!
Yeah I know. Did you see me come on here and make any refference to you whatsoever?, but your very post on this thread what did you do?...thats right drop my name.
The State Penn..?
....huh..?
You implying because im black that im from the state penn, or have been locked up in a federal institution? Ok.
I know who you are, your the thai fanboy who couldnt take it when you had to accept the fact that mexican fighters are 400million times more reckonized and more revered, and reknowned and accomplished than any thai fighter on this planet earth.
Dont even try and reason with this kid and make no mistake thats exactly what he is a KID.
He's a hardcore racist who throws his famous hissy fits when someone disagrees with him..
Uh oh, a Black Jesus and a Jose teaming up, what a combo, two guys from the State penitentiary. I 'm not even gonna bother, please read my previous posts and get back at me and what the hell made you think I'm filipino, idiots.
The State Penn..?
....huh..?
You implying because im black that im from the state penn, or have been locked up in a federal institution? Ok.
I know who you are, your the thai fanboy who couldnt take it when you had to accept the fact that mexican fighters are 400million times more reckonized and more revered, and reknowned and accomplished than any thai fighter on this planet earth.
I should have put "Puerto Ricans" in there, my mistake. Well P4P is a list, different people put different names in there. In the "American" based P4P list, it would be a surprise to see a fighter who never fought in the U.S to be there. Hmmmmm.... actually I dont know anybody who hasn't fought in the U.S. to be there. It's simply sad coz its 7000 miles away from "real" boxing media. You need to be extra talented with lots of "who you know" kinda thing to get you the recognition you deserve. Had pacman not replace that guy who was to fight Ledwaba in the U.S., would you think boxing fans would have known him? Anyway.......got to go :) :)
The best fighters are in america or fight in america away from your little village/hometown/homecrowd.
You fight here because its where all the big media, pressure and stardum await. You either make it in america or you dont, the american p4p list is the most legit and displays the best fighters who have shown to be elite on all levels and facets of their skills. Thats why its like that, who can deny that an american p4p list doesnt have the best and most skilled fighters in the world on their lists
As much as you hate Pacman fans (hopefully not all of them), it will always be good for boxing. It was the same way Mexican gloated and bragged when JCC came into the spotlight. (And maybe the way boricuas treated Tito) These types of fighters are rare ( im not comparing pacman with JCC ) but Filipinos have other fighters to root for. (not the way you percieve that Filipinos wait for a looooong time for champions to come out). Asian fighters tends to dominate the lower weights which is unpopular in the U.S. , the reason why you don't think there are other "Champions" in the Philippines. Peace. :p
I dont hate all pacman fans, just mostly the ones who put a hugely nationalist biased spin on it. My mom is from puerto rico, i dont give a fuck about tito trinidad nor do i sport any fuckin puerto rican flags, because i dont care, i dont care about any of that stuff, i was born here, san francisco california, nobody cares about any that shit.
When i say other "champions" i mean ones that matter, notice how i specificly said "p4p"
I don't think MAB is trying to say that Pac has to win if he wants the fight. I think he's saying thatPac has that fight in front of him right now and needs to concentrate on that first.
when it comes to pac man, as much as i like him, fans of his tend to give me a different view of him, kind of like in sports, fans of a certain team gloat and brag so much and throw fabrications and statements at you so much, you grow a disdain for the fans.
Because a place like the philipines lacks ANY OTHER legit p4p fighter, and will not likely have another one for a long time, fanboyism may tilt in his favor at alarming levels. While i respect pac-man as a fighter, when i see a bunch of bullshit like "JOSE YOUR BIASED TOWARDS YOUR HISPANIC FIGHTERS"
who the fuck cares, filipinos are closely related to hispanics, in certain aspects of your culture, right down to your fucking names, who the fuck cares. Get over your "OMG THE MEXICANS ARE SCARED OF PAC-MAN" and realize that boxing is a buisness and its about money, its not about honor, and who fights who, its about fuckin money, and just because your ONE good fighter from your country has an assortment of good fighters to fight that have yet to fight him, remember that this is a buisness, and money comes first.
This has gotten downright stupid, but hey your drunk, I'm drunk so lets take this outside buddy. FYI, I was well aware of the error, I just didn't care to correct it and how do you spell Manila again? You still haven't answered the question Josie, if Pac is MAB's top priority, why did they decline the offer? Why does it matter where I got my information from, it was Freddie Roach's comments anyway, face it buddy, you and Barrera are a bunch of Mexican'ts.
Oh noooow its gotten stupid huh*rolleyes*
I mean do you see me following you around throwing your name into all my post?...No you dont do you.
What the hell are you talking about what does it matter where I get my information from...Oh I dont know maybe because all that paper has ever done is print shameless Pac propaganda, you know that could be a reason.
Whats with all the Mexican comments? Its like you got a ridiculous inferiority complex working for you kid.
What is that supposed to mean RSL? That hes stupid because his name is Jose? Why dont you just say that your an ignorant racist that thinks all hispanics are dumb, fucking ricemonkey!!
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learn how to quote all by yourself big guy?
hey yo...be kewl yah guys...or else you'll get my spanking...lol :)...no racist remark, rsl...and fightfan stop your name calling and cursing will yah?
back to topic...jose the source of this topic was hbo latino...just wanna point that out.
the facts:
jmm didn't want a rematch with pac after their first fight and he clearly said that the same night.
mab backed out from an agreement with arum to fight pac this year presumably for the money and to ktfo erik.
mab after his win with erik didn't call out pacman.it's only now that hbo is dangling an offer to pacman to fight erik in july that mab suddenly became interested, albeit not much since he sent a mixed signal.
erik has been the only one who is openly saying he wants to fight pac. erik among the three has the bigger balls imho.
cheers and lighten up your day, mi amigos. cill out and relax!
Wow a guy named Jose calling somebody else a dumbass, it's not possible, sorry. Last time I checked and these are facts, if Pac is really Barrera's top priority for '05, why did Barrera and GBP declined a rematch, when Pac and his team went public to express their strong desire to put a rematch w/ Marquez aside and go straight to Barrera right after MAB's win against Morales.
What is that supposed to mean RSL? That hes stupid because his name is Jose? Why dont you just say that your an ignorant racist that thinks all hispanics are dumb, fucking ricemonkey!!
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Wow a guy named Jose calling somebody else a dumbass, it's not possible, sorry. Last time I checked and these are facts, if Pac is really Barrera's top priority for '05, why did Barrera and GBP declined a rematch, when Pac and his team went public to express their strong desire to put a rematch w/ Marquez aside and go straight to Barrera right after MAB's win against Morales.
Yes a guy named Jose just called you a dumbass and guess what? he's about to call you one again *ahem* DUMBASS.
Oh wow you have been reduced to going to the "Manilla Times" for your sources.