Larry Merchant claimed that Wladimir had merely outpunched himself in the Brewster fight. Larry also said that Vitaliy is a smarter and more resourcefull fighter than Wladimir is, and that Vitaliy knows how to conserve his energy.
The following Compubox numbers prove Larry Merchant's theory WRONG. The numbers show that Vitaliy boxed Danny at a substantially HIGHER TEMPO than Wladimir did against Lemon. Moreover, Vitaliy was able to easily maintain that HIGH TEMPO through round 8.
These Compubox numbers raise a worrisome question:
Why did Wlad collapse to the floor at the end of Round 4? (He then barely made it to round 5 and lost by a TKO.)
I believed and now even stronger believe that there WAS something really wrong with Wlad's health that night (whatever the reasons were). I also think that there should be a W.Kltschko-Brewster rematch.
Table 1. COMPUBOX PUNCH STATS for Vitaliy-Danny Fight:
Vitaliy Klitschko 53/94 41/75 33/59 35/71 37/81 30/70 33/56 22/33 (mid-round stoppage)
Danny Williams 4/21 4/22 9/30 4/26 4/20 10/32 6/28 3/14
Table 2. COMPUBOX PUNCH STATS for Wladimir-Lemon Fight:
Wladimir Klitschko 33/78 32/77 24/59 20/58 11/39
Lemon Brewster 7/34 6/28 9/31 6/27 15/38
he he he guess that did not make sense. I meant to say the punching rate also depended upon your opponent. if your opponent can move fast then obviously you can't punch that many. I wish you post some more statistics from other fights. Statistics is garbage if you just pull one thing out of the batch.
Compubox has more. Check it out, especially Wlad-Merser fight.
he he he guess that did not make sense. I meant to say the punching rate also depended upon your opponent. if your opponent can move fast then obviously you can't punch that many. I wish you post some more statistics from other fights. Statistics is garbage if you just pull one thing out of the batch.
there's just no way to completely know what happened at this point, no matter how much credability one thinks they have.
Odds seem clear, but it was quite different than any other remotely similar boxing situation I've ever witnessed.
is this the longest thread ever??????
there's just no way to completely know what happened at this point, no matter how much credability one thinks they have.
Odds seem clear, but it was quite different than any other remotely similar boxing situation I've ever witnessed.
The real facts
Wlad had just punched himself out. In boxing you don't just throw your shots you have to be economical, something that a prefessional prize fighter should know, this is especially a cardinal rule in the heavyweight division. When you look at the tape you see how many times that Wlad's punches hit gloves or missed completly. When you box you want to take the open shots and occasionally throw flurries. Another example of a fighter punching himself out basically to a point where he was knocked out both from punishment and fatigue would be Fernando Vargas when he fought De La Hoya.
No excuse Wlad just punched himself out, he has to be more economical!
i have a theory. everyone knows that the ukranian primeminister was drugged/posioned, so maybe they did the same to wlad because of his political stance
Wlad didn't look good at all in the Nicholson fight. It was a snooze fest until Wlad finally learned Nicholson was a joke and threw a good left hook.
This just in, most of Wlad's fights are snooze fests.
There is clearly a difference:
Brewster: http://www.klitschko.com/gallery/index.php?lang=en&task=image&dir=fights/Wladimir/45_Lamon_Brewster&file=scena0353.jpg
Purrity: http://www.klitschko.com/gallery/index.php?lang=en&task=show&dir=fights/Wladimir/25_Ross_Puritty&file=25_Ross_Puritty_294.jpg
meaning this...
:)
nope, i know he won, but what are you getting at?
He looked really good in doing so. If Wlad isn't the same after either of his two recent losses, it would clearly have to be that he isn't the same after his fight with Brewster. I think I am going to have to post the fight in the download section.
Wlad vs. Nicholson: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?p=84104#post84104