Wright Opens The Door For Trinidad Vs. Quartey or Taylor!
December 14, 2004 - Undisputed junior middleweight king, Ronald "Winky" Wright told Boxingtalk.com it's going to take more than the $3M Don King Productions is currently offering for him to fight Felix Trinidad on March 12. Although Wright is still a promotional free agent, his legal team has given promoter Gary Shaw temporary authorization to negotiate this fight with DKP. Shaw told Boxingtalk.com, "The Trinidad's are very honorable people, so I'm wondering if this is King making the offer because I don't think the Trinidad's would be that disrespectful for a $10M Trinidad, $3M Winky. This is the the undisputed junior middleweight champion we're talking about." If Team Wright opts against fighting Trinidad for $3M, this opens the door for Jermain Taylor and Ike Quartey, the other two names Don King has mentioned publicly to land the fight with Trinidad. Promoter Lou DiBella, who promotes BOTH Taylor and Quartey assured Boxingtalk.com that neither of his fighter's would pass up such an offer from DKP
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My point is that people like Tito, and Oscar always throw bitch change to the other fighters because they know the others have no choice, and they also know that if they dont except then they can still fight a garbage fighter like Campos, and Castilio on PPV
Thats cause they can,they r the moneymakers in boxing. Who the fuck is Campos and Castillo is not garbage.
pretty stupid considering he barely got by mosley in the rematch
i agree...he may well be a champion...but nobody wants to see him fight...the real draw here is tito...he would be lucky if he gets the same or even half of that offer again...
i guess winky & jmm are birds of the same feather...
Winky Wright is just a Vernon Forest one hit wonder he has only beaten Moseley. Lets look at the facts Winky refuses to fight Vargas again even though he was begging for a rematch before Vargas fought De La Hoya now he has all the belts he thinks he can command more than 3 million which I think is too much for a boring fighter. If anybody wants to know tito and Gatti get so much money compared to other fighters simple and I will make it clear
TITO & GATTI are exciting fighters who have both been in many fights of the year.
Wright has done nothing apart from beat a shot moseley who will end up like Roy Jones getting knocked out badly at Welteweight Oscar you have been warned
Do you know how hard a forearm is. Tito wont never bring those guards down, and people always talk about what the guy with power is going to do like the other gut has no offense. They always say yeah Floyd might get away for a few rounds but when Zoo hits him. They said Spinks might can move for a few rounds but when Mayorga hits him. Trust me Winky will be doing alot of scoring in this fight. This is about a guy who never got his respect and now he has one big fight. The fight that he's been waiting for his whole life. Sound familar? Sounds just like Hopkins to me and Winky vs Shane, or Tarver vs Jones. This will be a fight were Tito will take alot of punishment. Tito's the guy with the suspect chin. This will be toe to toe, and I'm going with the guy who's the better boxer, has the better chin, has the better defense, and the guy who's been waiting his whole life for this moment and is extremley hungery
floyd and zoo???is that mayweather and kostya tszyu
didnt know theyde fought..
ok mayorga isnt half as good a boxer as tito or spinks
and funnily enough he was beaten by both.
some people did say mayorga was gonna beat em both
but not everyone..not me lol
still not sure whether tito would beat b-hop but
id tip him to beat dlh, spinks, quartey, and
taylor... and winky
Do you know how hard a forearm is. Tito wont never bring those guards down, and people always talk about what the guy with power is going to do like the other gut has no offense. They always say yeah Floyd might get away for a few rounds but when Zoo hits him. They said Spinks might can move for a few rounds but when Mayorga hits him. Trust me Winky will be doing alot of scoring in this fight. This is about a guy who never got his respect and now he has one big fight. The fight that he's been waiting for his whole life. Sound familar? Sounds just like Hopkins to me and Winky vs Shane, or Tarver vs Jones. This will be a fight were Tito will take alot of punishment. Tito's the guy with the suspect chin. This will be toe to toe, and I'm going with the guy who's the better boxer, has the better chin, has the better defense, and the guy who's been waiting his whole life for this moment and is extremley hungery
this is a perfect example of "ignorance is bliss!!!!
he should be able to name his price, he deserves it, he ait gonna sell himself short. and if don king only offered 3mil you know its gotta be worth more than that.
3 Mil, investment or cashing in the chips? I feel the latter.
he should be able to name his price, he deserves it, he ait gonna sell himself short. and if don king only offered 3mil you know its gotta be worth more than that.
shoulder roll defense defends your midsection better than any other stance. you have no shot at hitting someones liver whos in a shoulder rolls stance. you only see their lead side (shoulder) they give you half the target a fighter in normal stance does. they keep their left hand low also defending the exposed side of their body. right hand is high to block a high lead left hook. reflexes used to dodge the right hand. theyre defending themselves with shoulders , back, arms etc it is very difficult to get to their midsections.
winky and strum fight very similar. they bully behind a jab and the fact that they havent faced someone hard enough to bring their hands down. trinidad is a MUCH harder puncher than mosley. i just cant picture anyone exposing their body to trinidad and being able to withstand the barrage of punches. tito throws beautiful combinations if you give him a target. and winky is a very big target. look at the guys who've had success against trinidad, executioner and dlh. they moved the whole fight and kept a jab in his face. neither of them stood in front of trinidad. now, if winky came in with a plan to fight how he used to and move alot, then i could see him giving tito a lot of trouble. but i havent seen him fight that way in ages. when was the last time winky faced a good puncher? vargas?
Tito doesnt even go to the body that much and when he does it doesnt have the same power as his head shots. Also when he goes to the body then he will open himself up to counter punches just like Winky did Shane
shoulder roll defense defends your midsection better than any other stance. you have no shot at hitting someones liver whos in a shoulder rolls stance. you only see their lead side (shoulder) they give you half the target a fighter in normal stance does. they keep their left hand low also defending the exposed side of their body. right hand is high to block a high lead left hook. reflexes used to dodge the right hand. theyre defending themselves with shoulders , back, arms etc it is very difficult to get to their midsections.
winky and strum fight very similar. they bully behind a jab and the fact that they havent faced someone hard enough to bring their hands down. trinidad is a MUCH harder puncher than mosley. i just cant picture anyone exposing their body to trinidad and being able to withstand the barrage of punches. tito throws beautiful combinations if you give him a target. and winky is a very big target. look at the guys who've had success against trinidad, executioner and dlh. they moved the whole fight and kept a jab in his face. neither of them stood in front of trinidad. now, if winky came in with a plan to fight how he used to and move alot, then i could see him giving tito a lot of trouble. but i havent seen him fight that way in ages. when was the last time winky faced a good puncher? vargas?
LOL i dont understand boxing. youre trying to say winky can stand in front of trinidad with his hands up and win a fight? who has EVER stood in front of trinidad and won? and i dont understand boxing? how are floyd/toney similar to winky? winky gives you his ENTIRE body including his liver. floyd and toney show half of their body, and keep their left hand low to defend it. they leave the left side of their head open and depend on reflexes to dodge and counter. floyd and toney use shoulder roll, winky does not. they dont fight ANYTHING alike so how can you compare winky to floyd and toney? oscar and mosley have absolutely no power to break that sort of defense strum and winky use. please up your boxing iq before you step to me again
I didnt say they fight alike. You said Winky is very hittable, and I said that's just because thats his style, not because he doesnt have a good D. He lets people hit him just like Toney and Floyd let people hit them but I did divide their styles and said that Floyd and Toney were alike and that Winky and Sturm were alike. Tito hasnt knocked everyone out. You said when have I ever seen anyone stand infront of Tito and I say that Winky stands infront of everyone and no one knocks him out. What makes you think that Tito will just overwhelm him. How do you know that Winky cant take it and dish it back. Like I said he wont get hit with too many clean shots in the face
You just dont understand boxing. Saying Wright is very hittable is like saying that Floyd and Toney are very hittable. Floyd and Toney let guys hit them and they roll the punches or block them with their hands, arms, and shoulders. This tires fighters out then you can dominate them when they stop punching. Wright also lets people hit him. He always keeps his guard up. You cant penetrate his D. He keeps his arms straight up so that's all you hit. All Mosley was hitting was his forearms. You could see that he was frustrated because he couldnt get through. Wright leaves his body exposed for shots just like Sturm, but when you have used this technique for a long time then your body is trained to handel the body punch. Oscar watched tape on Sturm and thought he could eat this guy's body up, but it never hurt Sturm because he has trained his body to handle them. That's exactly what Manny Steward was saying after the fight. What Oscar was doing early on looked good but it never hurt him because he is equipped to take that, and what happened. Oscar started to wear down. Tito never goes to the body anyway. He will hit Winkys arms all night long
LOL i dont understand boxing. youre trying to say winky can stand in front of trinidad with his hands up and win a fight? who has EVER stood in front of trinidad and won? and i dont understand boxing? how are floyd/toney similar to winky? winky gives you his ENTIRE body including his liver. floyd and toney show half of their body, and keep their left hand low to defend it. they leave the left side of their head open and depend on reflexes to dodge and counter. floyd and toney use shoulder roll, winky does not. they dont fight ANYTHING alike so how can you compare winky to floyd and toney? i just find it hilarious since shoulder roll stance is ALL about defending your midsection. your liver is hidden in the back and you keep your left hand low defending your lead side. winky has both hands high exposing his belly. you have absoluetely no clue what youre talking about. oscar and mosley have absolutely no power to break that sort of defense strum and winky use. please up your boxing iq before you step to me again
i respect your OPINION but you too have a clouded view of boxing. the one thing you have to understand is that every boxer is very hittable. its just a matter of finding out how to do it. mosley was hitting arms i agree, but as we saw mosley does not have the power that trinidad has. if trinidad hits his arms like that they will eventually drop. when your arms are getting hit it takes thier strength away. sure mosley couldn't do it but mosley does not have the power that tito does. and you say that dlh stuck sturms body. i agree. but with love taps compaired to what tito would do to winky. and correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't dlh have a reputation for being too tired to fight after say the 6th round? tito never goes to the body? you obviously didn't even watch the tito mayorga fight let alone ant of his others if you say he doesn't go to the body. now i'm not sayin that if tito and winky fight its going to be total tito domination. winky hs a very good chance for an upset. but the one thing you have to remember is that the one thing that most of tito challengers have underestimated is his power. tito will eat alot of jabs. sure tito may hit arms for the first 2 rounds. but i just don't see it that way. tito is an accurate puncher. he pics his shots wisely. i would take tito mid fight stoppage. as far as the money goes..... gimmie a break. winky needs to quit being a leech. stop trying to get the money that tito is drawing. it makes no sense to me for winky to make more than 3 mil. i wonder if sturm would take the 3 mil? i'd rather see that fight any way.i give sturm a better chance at tito than i do winky. just my OPINION guys.
Do you know how hard a forearm is. Tito wont never bring those guards down, and people always talk about what the guy with power is going to do like the other gut has no offense. They always say yeah Floyd might get away for a few rounds but when Zoo hits him. They said Spinks might can move for a few rounds but when Mayorga hits him. Trust me Winky will be doing alot of scoring in this fight. This is about a guy who never got his respect and now he has one big fight. The fight that he's been waiting for his whole life. Sound familar? Sounds just like Hopkins to me and Winky vs Shane, or Tarver vs Jones. This will be a fight were Tito will take alot of punishment. Tito's the guy with the suspect chin. This will be toe to toe, and I'm going with the guy who's the better boxer, has the better chin, has the better defense, and the guy who's been waiting his whole life for this moment and is extremley hungery
"I think that I am the only person here that thinks that Winky is completely wrong. It is Tito's fan base that is paying for this fight, and it is Tito who could fight my grandma and make 10 million."
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Seems like most of those posting on this topic believe Winky is wrong, myself included.
I think that I am the only person here that thinks that Winky is completely wrong. It is Tito's fan base that is paying for this fight, and it is Tito who could fight my grandma and make 10 million.
What these fighters have to consider is what their next best alternative is.
Tito can fight Quartay and make about 10 mil.
Wright can fight Ouma and make about 500,000.
Hopkins took less to fight DLH because it was his best chance to make money and it was out there.
Vivian Harris turned down $750K to fight Hatton and he fought in Germany for $100K aganst Steve Urkel or something.
Wright should thank his lucky stars that Tito is willing to fight him.
Yea the guy whos been retired for 2 years came back and beat up a guy SMALLER than Winky after being ko'd his fight before that should make over 3x as much as the undisputed champ. Sure, I fuckin understand now
Kid....
I was at that fight when Tito beat up tht "little" guy....me & about 18,000 other people....We all shelled out some $$$ for that fight.
The PPV #'s were pretty damn nice, too.
& guess what ? We all got our money's worth.
That's why TITO is in the position to call the shots. The guy creates excitement & never disappoints.
Could Winky draw that many people ? Not even close !
Could Winky generate that kind of excitement ? LMAO !
What about Oscar getting almost 3x the amount Hopkins did ?
Did you have a problem with Oscar, notorious for SUCKING in big fights/coming off a GIFT DECISION win, getting that much more than the the undisputed middleweight champ ? The guy who is the conscensus choice as the world's best fighter ?
Did you have a problem with how Oscar made all that money, then fought like a pussy & quit like a fag ?