When looking at these guys, let me know who achievered more than they should have. I would have to say Ali, Holyfield, and Rocky M. these guys where all small HW's (Ali wasn't that small) who continued to take out bigger stronger fighters day in and day out. there heart toook them futher than ever imagined. please give me your top 5.
You guys are naming fighters who are world-class athletes (with the exception of Johnny Louise of course), if we're going to think of overacheivers, let's think of guys who had no amateur background who have succeeded (Rahman, McCline) or guys with very little god-given athletic ability who have risen to the top (Antifuermo, Ward, and of course Louise). HOlyfield, Hagler, JCC, etc., those guys are gifted, world-class athletes who made the most with what they had, but that doesn't make them overacheivers, it just makes them great fighters. - SacTown1
Good point. Holyfield and those other guys previously mentioned always had the talent to get where they were/at during their peaks. Overachievers are guys who are consistent underdogs, yet overcome that. John Ruiz is definitely an overachiever.
You guys are naming fighters who are world-class athletes (with the exception of Johnny Louise of course), if we're going to think of overacheivers, let's think of guys who had no amateur background who have succeeded (Rahman, McCline) or guys with very little god-given athletic ability who have risen to the top (Antifuermo, Ward, and of course Louise). HOlyfield, Hagler, JCC, etc., those guys are gifted, world-class athletes who made the most with what they had, but that doesn't make them overacheivers, it just makes them great fighters. - SacTown1
Good point. Holyfield and those other guys previously mentioned always had the talent to get where they were/at during their peaks. Overachievers are guys who are consistent underdogs, yet overcome that.
Holyfeild is an amazing overachiever, he a crusierweight who made himself one of the top heavyweights of all time
and even though he is clearly done at this point, just based on his rep and heart, I think he would have a great shot against that loser Lamon Brewster.
Who are the biggest OVER-achievers
I think Spinks is an over-achiever. He is a good boxer, but not a great one, but someone he keeps beating top ranked opponents
Absolutely
You're right Scap, he made the most with whad he had, and he reached a pretty lofty level in the sport for about 2-3 years, but the IBF title doesn't make you world champion. Haugen, at his best, was still about the 6th best fighter in the lightweight division.
Sweet Pea is one of the most talented fighters to come through the sport in the last couple decades. Haugen defines an overachiever, we can yak about what the belts mean all day long(they are all bullshit except for the RING)but the fact is that Haugen took minimal or average talent and become a world champion...there are a zillion fighters out there that have more talent then a Greg Haugen and never reach the level that he did...I pretty much think we agree abou that.
Haugen
Sorry brotha, yes Haugen somewhat fits the description, but what exactly did he acheive? An American fighter winning the American title belt (IBF) doesn't mean squat (just like Mexicans winning WBC belts, South Americans winning WBA belts, and Brits carrying around WBO straps). I think Haugen did good with what he had, but he didn't relly acheive much. The belt doesn't make the man, it's the other way around. Haugen carried the belt, but Sweet Pea made the belt and gave it worth.
You guys are naming fighters who are world-class athletes (with the exception of Johnny Louise of course), if we're going to think of overacheivers, let's think of guys who had no amateur background who have succeeded (Rahman, McCline) or guys with very little god-given athletic ability who have risen to the top (Antifuermo, Ward, and of course Louise). HOlyfield, Hagler, JCC, etc., those guys are gifted, world-class athletes who made the most with what they had, but that doesn't make them overacheivers, it just makes them great fighters. - SacTown1
Greg Haugen does not fit your criteria?
Overacheivers
You guys are naming fighters who are world-class athletes (with the exception of Johnny Louise of course), if we're going to think of overacheivers, let's think of guys who had no amateur background who have succeeded (Rahman, McCline) or guys with very little god-given athletic ability who have risen to the top (Antifuermo, Ward, and of course Louise). HOlyfield, Hagler, JCC, etc., those guys are gifted, world-class athletes who made the most with what they had, but that doesn't make them overacheivers, it just makes them great fighters. - SacTown1
Well, Lamon Brewter's holding a belt.
That's WAY over what his talent should allow.
Of course, the fact that he kept it after the Meehan fight suggests something else is going on...
holy
gatti ( i will sya he deserves it for that heart and being a big part of the reason why boxing started to get popular again-triology)
hopkins
Kosta T:came back and beat a man no one thought he could, in 3 rounds
if tito can beat hop which i doubt..then he will be on here also