The reason the heavyweights suck

i think Vitali Klitschko is an awesome boxer but has terrible defence so i think the heavyweight devisons only problum is the lack of boxers

Yeah. I was really impressed with Guinn. I thought he would be the next heavyweight star... until he lost to Barrett. I think things would be much different now if guinn dominated or at least decisively defeated barrett. guinn has a good chin, good power and seems to keep his stamina into the late rounds... at least in the duncan dokiwari fight he did. maybe he only looks good against taller fighters since he said he prefers fighting bigger guys. Guinn is good but is not much more than that.

\ The only good trainer in the heavyweight division is freddie roach , his fighter james toney is the only heavyweight in the division with good boxing fundamental the rest of the heavyweight trainers suck and they are the reason the heavyweights suck . Roach has little to do with Toney being one of the best boxers.

If Guinn can rededicate himself. He will be a force to be reckoned with. Yeah. I was really impressed with Guinn. I thought he would be the next heavyweight star... until he lost to Barrett. I think things would be much different now if guinn dominated or at least decisively defeated barrett. guinn has a good chin, good power and seems to keep his stamina into the late rounds... at least in the duncan dokiwari fight he did. maybe he only looks good against taller fighters since he said he prefers fighting bigger guys.

If Guinn can rededicate himself. He will be a force to be reckoned with.

Anyone in mind? Samuel Peters looks interesting, and Dwain Chambers seems to be getting a bit of a name for himself. Besides that, Audley Harrison, Calvin Brock and Malik Scott look rather uninspiring. Black

hopefully a new heavyweight sensation comes along, I think that would help the division and boxing in genrel.

A few reasons why the HWs suck: 1) Less HW fighters= Much smaller pool of talent 2) PPV and less fights being fought means more protected prospects who won't fight anyone dangerous until the pay-day fight 3) Lack of quality trainers-besides Roach and Steward, everyone else are not great trainers. 4) Lack of skills/talent-Mostly due to reason # 1 and b/c so many HWs weigh too much. Rahman has power but is slow and very technically limited. Even in the 80s he would've been outboxed by most of the top guys. Vitali, Ruiz, Oquendo, McCline??? Just look at them . .. 5) The HW division is TOO OLD. What the hell is going on when your average HW contender is 34 years old!!! At 34 twenty years ago you are heading towards retirement. But now its the prime of your career! Golota is 36, Toney is 36, Byrd and McCline are 34, Vitali is 33, Donald and Sanders are 38, Rahman at 32 is now considered young. The only top 10 guy in his 20s is 28 yr old Wladimir Klitschko, who has already gone through two 'rebuilding stages' due to embarassing losses. At 28 he should be in the prime of his career. The HWs should be re-named the senior division. lmao! the seniors division heh.. hmm maybe it's not good to make fun of old heavyweights. remember what george foreman did to michael moore?

the heavyweights suck cuz there's less talent in the division. we need a guy to come along that will dominate. he's gonna come soon... hopefully

I think the only great trainer in the division is frddie roach , he has do woners with toneys career taught him excellent boxing technique , the same with tyson he has got him back to his old peek a boo style , the onlt that has being able to get him to do it since kevin rooney . Believe me if all the trainers in the division were half as good as freddie roach , the division would be much better and the fighters would be much better , look at rahman for example the guy dosent even know how to counter punch , somebody needs to teach this guy how to box he has the tools there just not being used properly . James toney is the only good counter puncher in the division surely that shouldnt be the case . I dont see why there should be a lack of talent out there they are 6 billon people in the world , surley there is one person out there who has the tools to be a great heavyweight .

I think the skill level is relatively high. Byrd is one of the most skillful heavyweights in years, for a start. I think the problem is that the three titlists just aren't exciting names. If they were to unify it would give one of them a big deal more respect, and it would make sense of the rankings. If, for instance, Klit unified the belts, the others would HAVE to fight each other to jostle for position to fight him, whereas at the moment the contenders can just sit around and wait for one of the three titlists to need an opponent. Black I think you hit the nail on its head here and concur.

Vitali to the rescue. ;) Lets keep our fingers crossed. There WAS Dominic Guinn, but we all knew what happened to him...

A few reasons why the HWs suck: 1) Less HW fighters= Much smaller pool of talent 2) PPV and less fights being fought means more protected prospects who won't fight anyone dangerous until the pay-day fight 3) Lack of quality trainers-besides Roach and Steward, everyone else are not great trainers. 4) Lack of skills/talent-Mostly due to reason # 1 and b/c so many HWs weigh too much. Rahman has power but is slow and very technically limited. Even in the 80s he would've been outboxed by most of the top guys. Vitali, Ruiz, Oquendo, McCline??? Just look at them . .. 5) The HW division is TOO OLD. What the hell is going on when your average HW contender is 34 years old!!! At 34 twenty years ago you are heading towards retirement. But now its the prime of your career! Golota is 36, Toney is 36, Byrd and McCline are 34, Vitali is 33, Donald and Sanders are 38, Rahman at 32 is now considered young. The only top 10 guy in his 20s is 28 yr old Wladimir Klitschko, who has already gone through two 'rebuilding stages' due to embarassing losses. At 28 he should be in the prime of his career. The HWs should be re-named the senior division.

If there's one thing Bruno could do it was BANG. But he was intimidated by some fighters, and I think he'd have fought scared against Klit before getting taken out. Sanders did hit him, but with quick, sharp shots. Bruno's are the clobbering, ponderous type. Black

C'mon, man...BRUNO?!?!? But I know what you mean. Standard wise the division is pretty bad...but that doesn't mean it can't be fun if we can get a unified champion and get the right matches on. I STILL wanna see Klit-Golota, for instance. And how about Byrd-Toney fir the purists. And how about Ruiz-Tua 2? COME BACK DAVID! ALL IS FORGIVEN! Black Bruno I didn't rate that highly really but I really think very little of the current crop I think Vitali would beat the majority of todays fighters and sanders was able to shake up Vitali a few times so I wouldn't be surprised if Bruno did it.

C'mon, man...BRUNO?!?!? But I know what you mean. Standard wise the division is pretty bad...but that doesn't mean it can't be fun if we can get a unified champion and get the right matches on. I STILL wanna see Klit-Golota, for instance. And how about Byrd-Toney fir the purists. And how about Ruiz-Tua 2? COME BACK DAVID! ALL IS FORGIVEN! Black

Thing is, they're all good fighters in their place. It's just that the division is a mess and they're getting big fights they don't deserve. Black Even if ther was some kind of elimination series what we have isn't that good at the moment a prime Foreman or Tyson or Holmes or for gods sake Bruno would beat them.

Thing is, they're all good fighters in their place. It's just that the division is a mess and they're getting big fights they don't deserve. Black

Ruiz, Golota, Byrd, Tyson, Holyfield, they are the reason for me.

I think the skill level is relatively high. Byrd is one of the most skillful heavyweights in years, for a start. I think the problem is that the three titlists just aren't exciting names. If they were to unify it would give one of them a big deal more respect, and it would make sense of the rankings. If, for instance, Klit unified the belts, the others would HAVE to fight each other to jostle for position to fight him, whereas at the moment the contenders can just sit around and wait for one of the three titlists to need an opponent. Black