Tyson vs James Tonye

Well we'll never see eye2eye on this dubK but I just don't think fights happen like this. James won't just sit there and let Tyson rock him with power shot after power shot. Tyson has never been tougher than Holy or had significantly better defense as of late so I definitely think Toney could hit Tyson hard enough to throw him off his game and hurt him over time. Toney still has pop in his shots and he'll eat Tysons body up on the inside where the fight would most likely end up. I'm almost positive that JT could eat one of those "big power shot" uppercuts like Danny Williams did...he has a beard...but the difference is that he wouldn't be vulnerable or easily exposed to it the way Williams was.

Y'all act like Im a Toney basher and that Im swinging from Mikes left testicle which is far from the case, but I dont care how bad you beat up Holyfield and Booker thats not impressive I wasnt impressed when Lennox did it, or Byrd or Larry Donald. I just looked at who Booker has fought one of the guys on his resume has a record of 13-159-5. So I would hope Toney looks impressive against this guy hes a nobody. Im not here to debate Toneys boxing skills I honestly do believe he is a great fighter and the Tyson is shot but I think one punch from Tyson would kill Toney. Tyson still has one-punch knockout power, and I just dont think Toney is powerful enough to keep Tyson off of him long enough, this really isnt a debate its my opinion, Holyfield pushed Tyson around to keep him off of him the rest were big enough to jab him off, I just dont think Toney hits hard enough to keep Tyson from gettig at him. Well lets hope that the fight will be made: 1) we will see an interesting fight, 2) and afterwards somebody can say "told you so". :)

Y'all act like Im a Toney basher and that Im swinging from Mikes left testicle which is far from the case, but I dont care how bad you beat up Holyfield and Booker thats not impressive I wasnt impressed when Lennox did it, or Byrd or Larry Donald. I just looked at who Booker has fought one of the guys on his resume has a record of 13-159-5. So I would hope Toney looks impressive against this guy hes a nobody. Im not here to debate Toneys boxing skills I honestly do believe he is a great fighter and the Tyson is shot but I think one punch from Tyson would kill Toney. Tyson still has one-punch knockout power, and I just dont think Toney is powerful enough to keep Tyson off of him long enough, this really isnt a debate its my opinion, Holyfield pushed Tyson around to keep him off of him the rest were big enough to jab him off, I just dont think Toney hits hard enough to keep Tyson from gettig at him.

Tyson fan? HAHA I think Tyson is almost as done as they come, but James Toney isnt far behind, how many injuries has he had in the past year? Too many he's not a youngster, I dont believe the Jirov he fought was much faster than Tyson is now and Toney has put on weight since that fight, and I saw Jirov land plenty of clean shots. "one of the smartest, toughtest, most skilled, and most experienced fighters today or even ever for that matter " LOL sure sounds like Im the fanatic here huh. He took plenty of good shots from Jirov. The last thing to go on a heavyweight is his power Tyson still has plenty to do damage. WHO has Toney beat to make him a heavyweight contender? Who did Tyson bite...eh.. beat since Buster Douglas? Or lately that would make him a heavyweight contender? As much I would love to see the old Tyson again, Tyson has proven his skills are declining rapidly. True, Toney still has to prove his skills in the heavyweights, but he should at this point be rated quite a bit above Larry Donald.

He just sat there like a sack of sand against Danny Williams.

Tyson fan? HAHA I think Tyson is almost as done as they come, but James Toney isnt far behind, how many injuries has he had in the past year? Too many he's not a youngster, I dont believe the Jirov he fought was much faster than Tyson is now and Toney has put on weight since that fight, and I saw Jirov land plenty of clean shots. "one of the smartest, toughtest, most skilled, and most experienced fighters today or even ever for that matter " LOL sure sounds like Im the fanatic here huh. He took plenty of good shots from Jirov. The last thing to go on a heavyweight is his power Tyson still has plenty to do damage. WHO has Toney beat to make him a heavyweight contender? Toney fought the toughest form of Jirov...not the Jirov you've seen against Mesi. Although it was what JT wanted as he could just sit back and counter Jirov all night. Jirov landed cleanly on Toney because he threw upwards of 1100 punches...I mean, a few of those have to land. Toney was never hurt against Jirov, he could have fought 3 more rounds at that pace...although he wouldn't have had to because he would have ended it in the next round. This isn't a debate about whether James is old or injury prone. He was old when he beat on Jirov for 12 rounds, and old/injured when he dominated Holy and Booker. James looks good so far in his old age. It's about whether he'd beat down Tyson and that's exactly what he'd do. Would you disagree that even with his old age and injuries he has looked impressive thus far in his HW campaign? I don't see how you can, even though he hasn't fought "top notch" competition right away. He shouldn't have to fight the best right away...he's a blown up middle for goodness sakes. And that little section you highlighted, what do you know nothing about boxing or are you blind? It's commonly known and pretty easy to see that Toney is one of the most talented and highly skilled fighters EVER. His raw skill and instincts are incredible. Over time he has refined his craft and is one of the most technically sound fighters of this generation. His chin is granite and he is more experienced than 95% of the other fighters out there. Toney's defensive ability today is second to none (Byrd, Mayweather also) and he is an excellent/accurate counter puncher. Ask anybody about James skills, you'll get a pretty cut and dry answer. The only people who can't give you an honest answer are the ones who can't look past his loud mouth and brash actions. No doubt he makes stupid choices sometimes, comes in out of shape, and is getting close to the end of his career...but he'd mop up Tyson and possibly any of these belt holders today if given the chance within the next couple years.

Tyson fan? HAHA I think Tyson is almost as done as they come, but James Toney isnt far behind, how many injuries has he had in the past year? Too many he's not a youngster, I dont believe the Jirov he fought was much faster than Tyson is now and Toney has put on weight since that fight, and I saw Jirov land plenty of clean shots. "one of the smartest, toughtest, most skilled, and most experienced fighters today or even ever for that matter " LOL sure sounds like Im the fanatic here huh. He took plenty of good shots from Jirov. The last thing to go on a heavyweight is his power Tyson still has plenty to do damage. WHO has Toney beat to make him a heavyweight contender? No one is doubting Tysons punching power. It's just Toney would not be a sitting duck waiting for Tyson to land the death blow. He will come at Tyson with counters and move around the ring enough to keep Tyson off balance. Toney has shown he has a good chin as well with the fighter you mentioned above in Jirov. Holyfield may be over the hill now but you still wouldn't want him landing clean shots on you. Toney took those puches and delivered his own to stop Holyfield. You ask who has Toney faced to make him a HW contender the same could be asked of Tyson at this point.

no one can run from tyson and not get hit clean atleast once....tyson 1-3 round ko..even shot tyson's power would be to much right on the chin for toney...i mean even slow ass booker got toney on the ropes many times

Toney would dipose of Tyson. i can see exactly how this fight would go, Toney would counterpunch iron mike's body for the at least the first five rounds, then start to work upstairs to the head. You're also forgetting another important part of this fight, and that is the psychological. Here, psychology is key. Tyson is known as a big puncher, this creates fear in someone who isn't very sure of themselves, someone like, say, a jameel McCline. James Toney isn't afraid of anyone, he believes he's the baddest man on the planet, and he'll take it to Tyson to prove that he is. Toney's skills and heart will destroy Tyson

Tyson fan? HAHA I think Tyson is almost as done as they come, but James Toney isnt far behind, how many injuries has he had in the past year? Too many he's not a youngster, I dont believe the Jirov he fought was much faster than Tyson is now and Toney has put on weight since that fight, and I saw Jirov land plenty of clean shots. "one of the smartest, toughtest, most skilled, and most experienced fighters today or even ever for that matter " LOL sure sounds like Im the fanatic here huh. He took plenty of good shots from Jirov. The last thing to go on a heavyweight is his power Tyson still has plenty to do damage. WHO has Toney beat to make him a heavyweight contender?

You are making it sound like one of the smartest, toughtest, most skilled, and most experienced fighters today or even ever for that matter (James Toney) would just stick his chin out and expose himself to Tyson. Trust me, Tyson wouldn't have a chance to land that monsterous uppercut on Toney the way he did Williams. Tyson would most likely have to get Toney out of there in the first 5 rounds in order to win this fight and I'm positive that James has enough resources to weather Tysons storm for 5. Toney would avoid getting hit with anything big, he'd work Tysons body over to sap some of that strength, and he'd sit back and accurately counterpunch all while keeping that defense tight. Theres no reason to believe that this fight would go any differently than the Holy fight except that Tyson fanatics still hold onto this pipedream that Tyson is still this ferocious wreckingball who can perform at a high level. Darn, you already said it!

6'2" 265 lbs is pretty physically imposing in case you've never been in a fight hot shot also Lewis was 6"5" 250 and Buster Douglas was 6'4" 230 so yea compared to a man who is 5'10" thats not too bad. Oh yea and Toney IS known for fighting big HEAVYWEIGHT punchers (sorry this isnt the middleweights anymore) like Holyfield and the ever-dangerous Rydell Booker. Get out of here Tyson is still one of the hardest hitting heavyweight and Toney hasnt even been hit by a real heavyweight. The uppercut Danny Williams took in the first round would have killed Toney. You also dont need a glass jaw to be ko'ed by Tyson ask Michael Spinks he had never been down until he took a shot from Tyson. Sadly the Tyson that KOed spinks is Looooooooooooooong gone. True Toneys has not been tested by a good heavyweight which was over the hill. Until that day it is hard to predict, if he could be KO-ed by Tyson. You think so, I do not. First he will not be solidly hit, secondly I think toney can take the punch. One thing I know for sure, toney is a dirty fighter enough, and with his big mouth, tyson will leave Freddies game plan within 20 seconds of the first round. And than Toney will have to becareful not to catch a cold from the wind of all Tysons wild swings :)

6'2" 265 lbs is pretty physically imposing in case you've never been in a fight hot shot also Lewis was 6"5" 250 and Buster Douglas was 6'4" 230 so yea compared to a man who is 5'10" thats not too bad. Oh yea and Toney IS known for fighting big HEAVYWEIGHT punchers (sorry this isnt the middleweights anymore) like Holyfield and the ever-dangerous Rydell Booker. Get out of here Tyson is still one of the hardest hitting heavyweight and Toney hasnt even been hit by a real heavyweight. The uppercut Danny Williams took in the first round would have killed Toney. You also dont need a glass jaw to be ko'ed by Tyson ask Michael Spinks he had never been down until he took a shot from Tyson. You are making it sound like one of the smartest, toughtest, most skilled, and most experienced fighters today or even ever for that matter (James Toney) would just stick his chin out and expose himself to Tyson. Trust me, Tyson wouldn't have a chance to land that monsterous uppercut on Toney the way he did Williams. Tyson would most likely have to get Toney out of there in the first 5 rounds in order to win this fight and I'm positive that James has enough resources to weather Tysons storm for 5. Toney would avoid getting hit with anything big, he'd work Tysons body over to sap some of that strength, and he'd sit back and accurately counterpunch all while keeping that defense tight. Theres no reason to believe that this fight would go any differently than the Holy fight except that Tyson fanatics still hold onto this pipedream that Tyson is still this ferocious wreckingball who can perform at a high level.

6'2" 265 lbs is pretty physically imposing in case you've never been in a fight hot shot also Lewis was 6"5" 250 and Buster Douglas was 6'4" 230 so yea compared to a man who is 5'10" thats not too bad. Oh yea and Toney IS known for fighting big HEAVYWEIGHT punchers (sorry this isnt the middleweights anymore) like Holyfield and the ever-dangerous Rydell Booker. Get out of here Tyson is still one of the hardest hitting heavyweight and Toney hasnt even been hit by a real heavyweight. The uppercut Danny Williams took in the first round would have killed Toney. You also dont need a glass jaw to be ko'ed by Tyson ask Michael Spinks he had never been down until he took a shot from Tyson.

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Is this even a serious post? Toney CAN NOT take a Tyson punch not even one. Who is the biggest puncher hes been hit by to make anyone believe he could take a punch by Tyson? Todays Tyson would have Killed Booker in 1 round same with Holyfield. I think at this point in Holyfields career Tye Fileds may be too slick and elusive for him, so Toney being too slick isnt that big of a deal. Tyson has only been beat by physically imposing heavyweights and a slightly over the hill Holyfield, the Holy that Tyson lost to would have dominated Toney now so scratch that. Tyson by KO first real punch he lands. Sure, toney is known for his glass jaw. And Tyson of late is known for his KO ability. NOT! Toney never been ko-ed and is KD only ones (more knocked of balance) I believe. And Tyson could not knock out lewis (who was (T)KO-ed by what-was-his-name-rahman and what-was-his-name-McCall) and Danny Williams. Toney will just duck Tysons wild swings and dispose of Tyson in the later round (shartly after Tyson sees his own blood). Btw Danny Williams imposing?

I think Toney would probably take care of Tyson fairly easily.

Is this even a serious post? Toney CAN NOT take a Tyson punch not even one. Who is the biggest puncher hes been hit by to make anyone believe he could take a punch by Tyson? Todays Tyson would have Killed Booker in 1 round same with Holyfield. I think at this point in Holyfields career Tye Fileds may be too slick and elusive for him, so Toney being too slick isnt that big of a deal. Tyson has only been beat by physically imposing heavyweights and a slightly over the hill Holyfield, the Holy that Tyson lost to would have dominated Toney now so scratch that. Tyson by KO first real punch he lands.

This would be a good fight. Both fighters impose their will on fighters and don't tend to back away. I don't see Toney taking flush Tyson shots like he took Holy's ...that would be a mistake cuz Tyson may not have stamina but he sure as hell has punching power. Toney is a smart fighter and would avoid Tysons power shots to try and take him into the later rounds. Once James gets Mike into the 8 or 9 rounds he will start to turn up the heat on a tired Tyson and may be able to finish him.

whoa, man.....Tyson not bein able to hurt Toney off a glancing blow? I could have sworn when watchin one of the rounds that Roy had James temporarily dazed for a moment, and Tyson hit way harder than he does. But then I might be thinkin of the wrong fight. Either way, Tyson's gonna hunt that body, especially since Toney likes to look kinda soft around there. There ain't no glancing shots to the body, you either hit body or arm, and they both are gonna hurt after a while either way. And alot of you cats are underestimating Roach's training. Tyson isn' a single round fighter.