How do you beat a Counter Puncher?

Punching first and last.....

You gotta walk him down and beat his ass.

You can force them to take the lead which can make them very uncomfortable, kind of what Jimmy Young did to Ali or Mayweather did to Marquez (but this can only be effective if you are an excellent technician). Or you can swarm them, take away their jab like what Vazquez did to Marquez or what Tyson and Frazier did to their opponents (not sure if this would work with JMM). Also, lots of feints can definitely frustrate counterpunchers since that makes them over commit and you can then counterpunch them. Or try to get inside and rough them up, like what Roberto Duran and Andre Ward does.

Much like with what Judah did to Mayweather, he'd fake a jab, Floyd would quickly react, and before you knew it Mayweather was eating Judah's straight left had. exactly. which is why Mayweather decided it was more effective to simply erase Judahs countering with a high guard and pressure. which was a smart move.

two different(most effective) ways: box them from a distance, potshotting. smother them at close range. to outcounterpunch a counter puncher, make them bite on fake counter opportunities by using feints or half assed easy to restract punches to lure their fire, and then counter their counters. Much like with what Judah did to Mayweather, he'd fake a jab, Floyd would quickly react, and before you knew it Mayweather was eating Judah's straight left hand.

You don't miss when you lead and be ready for the counter to counter back. You start and end the exchanges, stick and move and beat them to the punch.

two different(most effective) ways: box them from a distance, potshotting. smother them at close range. to outcounterpunch a counter puncher, make them bite on fake counter opportunities by using feints or half assed easy to restract punches to lure their fire, and then counter their counters.

i agree, just keep the pressure on. they cant counter everything. Pressure and cutting distance. From what I've seen, great counter punchers are great at using distance to get maximum power and speed on their punches. Once the distance is there, timing will allow them to tag a guy at will but without the space to work, they are taken out of their game and forced to grind it out.

Throw one punch at a time then either move out the way or move inside. Or volume punch.

Nice thread. Just taking some notes for next time I spar with a counter puncher :)

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I think Elpacman seeing the growth in Pac now will or should admit that Pac was one demeinsonal in that fight. That was easy to see

have incredibly long arms like p williams and just throw one jab at a time and dance lol

LMFAO!! i been boxing and boxing but just the other day i got hit by a low blow for the 1st time, it ****in hurts :eek: get a protective cup from a sports shop!

I was just curious about this. Many say Manny was 1 dimensional in the fight vs Marquez. Though ok, what else could he have done? Counter punch as well? That would be quite a boring match. In that case, what do you do to someone that doesn't punch unless you punch (aka pussies)? What if Marquez and lets say Barrera went at it. Who would you choose as the winner? I also think Manny's plan to beat Marquez by just using all out power was the best way to beat a counter puncher had it worked. I dunno what else he could have done. punch him harder than he punches you

alot of feints

For real...I haven't been seriously hit in the nuts in about 3 years until about a week ago when I was drunk with my buddies and one of my friends threw a football that I wasn't expecting and it hit me flush. I was down for the count for about 15 minutes. To answer the question I think swarmers do well against counter punchers. I guess anyone with a good chin and high work rate would do well against them...or someone who fights well inside and can smother their opponents punches. Picking your spots and making them count also helps. just today i sparred with my friend first round we went slugging and i would win the exchange but when he started to counter punch i couldn't do anything but thing that worked the best was at least 3 - 4 punch combinations all straights. since the counter puncher looks for an opening after a punch he can't do it when there are so many swarming him . :boxing:

WELL PEOPLE ONLY HAVE ONE LEFT HAND, AND THE WAY JMM FOUGHT AFTER THE FIRST ROUND TELLS THAT HE WAS JUST SURPRISED IN THE FIRST. TELL ME IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD OF GOTTEN UP AND SCHOOLED MANNY LIKE MARQUEZ, HE IS A VERY INTELLEGENT BOXER. IN NO WAY IS HE STUPID. THE REMATCH WILL PROVE MANY THINGS THAT I HAVE SAID. LOL You're so sure of Marquez in the rematch I'd hate to see you get disappointed in Feb.

On the contrary, it looks to me that it was JMM who got exposed. First knockdown, he tasted the power of Pacman's left. Second KD it is still the same left. Third KD, the same fuckin' left. Committing the same mistake three times is stupid. WELL PEOPLE ONLY HAVE ONE LEFT HAND, AND THE WAY JMM FOUGHT AFTER THE FIRST ROUND TELLS THAT HE WAS JUST SURPRISED IN THE FIRST. TELL ME IF ANYONE ELSE WOULD OF GOTTEN UP AND SCHOOLED MANNY LIKE MARQUEZ, HE IS A VERY INTELLEGENT BOXER. IN NO WAY IS HE STUPID. THE REMATCH WILL PROVE MANY THINGS THAT I HAVE SAID.

Or maybe it's the other way around that JMM, MORALES, and Barrera aren't as good as they're made out to be, therefore a tough, sloppy fighter like Pac is able to compete w/ 2 out of the three. I think MAB has done enough in his career to have his talent unquestioned. He was alone to have disposed of Prince and gave Morales absolute war. No, he is good and people shouldn't doubt his capabilities. Pac is way tooo underrated. The kid shows more technique, body movements and ring generalship than most brawlers. I wouldn't call him sloppy or wild like Mayorga. Hey if his punches are connecting, you gotta give him SOMETHING. If he was a sloppy or technique lacking as you say he is, MAB would have been the gatekeeper that filtered him out.