a prime Smokin' Joe Frazier vs. a prime Iron Mike Tyson
Who would win this fight? and Why?
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Could go one of two ways. Either Tyson blasts Joe out early as Joe was a slow starter or Joe makes it into the second half of the fight and either wears Mike down for a late TKO or wins a decision. Literally could have gone either way, I cannot pick a winner.
If it goes past 6 though, Mike ain't winning.
Im rather surprised how many people think Tyson beats Frazier. I understand that Frazier starts slow, but the guy wrecked people to the body and was a better infighter than Tyson. I can see Frazier getting dropped, but eventually Tyson would get overwhelmed.
Pretty easy win for Tyson. He is just a bigger better version of Frazier.
Better Chin, Better Power, Better combination of punches. Frazier would have little chance if he stood in front of Tyson trying to trade with him. He would have to hit tyson then grab on for dear life. He wouldn't be able to get past 5 rounds if he wanted to go to a Toe to toe battle with tyson.
Tysons punches are crisper, shorter, and to me more powerful then Frazier.
Tyson KO within 5 rounds. Joe would get knocked down a couple times and then knocked out.
Why is everyone assuming smokin joe couldn't hit as hard as tyson. Look how foreman hit ali and didn't knock him down, frazier knocked him down with one punch. Also how many fighters would get up six times after being knocked down six times by george foreman. I dont think tyson hit as hard as foreman so Frazier would win this by ko after 8
It's nothing to do with that, Frazier may hit just as hard at Tyson. Tyson is a very fast started and I think Tyson combination punching would get to Frazier, Tyson would land first and has IMO better head movement in his prime (ironically other than Tyson, Frazier is the 2nd best bob and weaver at HW)
Why is everyone assuming smokin joe couldn't hit as hard as tyson. Look how foreman hit ali and didn't knock him down, frazier knocked him down with one punch. Also how many fighters would get up six times after being knocked down six times by george foreman. I dont think tyson hit as hard as foreman so Frazier would win this by ko after 8
Are you serious? Watch Frazier's fights against mid-level contenders, he almost always needed a lot of punches to knock them down. There are a lot of rounds where Joe lands 20 flush power punches and his opponent is still standing in front of him. Joe was a grinder, not a KO artist. His KD over Ali was after 14 grueling rounds with hundreds of punches landed. Power is not even a debate here.
I think it's a terrible styles matchup for Joe, whose not long enough or skilled enough to outbox Tyson and would be outgunned if he decided to slug it out.
Why is everyone assuming smokin joe couldn't hit as hard as tyson. Look how foreman hit ali and didn't knock him down, frazier knocked him down with one punch. Also how many fighters would get up six times after being knocked down six times by george foreman. I dont think tyson hit as hard as foreman so Frazier would win this by ko after 8
YOUR RIGHT,AS LONG AS JOE COULD GET PAST THE 5th.
RODHOOK
Joe & Mike
a Prime Smokin' Joe Frazier Vs. A Prime Iron Mike Tyson
Who Would Win This Fight? And Why?
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I Always Have A Good Idea In My Mind Of Who Would Win And Why.
This One Has Got Me Thinking.i Have To Break It Down.
Power--tyson With Both Hands And Fraser Only A Left Hook.
Strength--tyson
Stamina-this Is A Big One Fraser Hands Down.many 15 Rounders.
Caliber Of Competion-fraser By Far Many Good Fighters.
Defence--tyson Was A Good Defensive Fighter,many Over Looked.
Chin--a Toss Up.
It Would Be One Of The Few Fights I Would Not Bet On.
Rodhook
Frazier wasn't nearly as easy to hit when he fought someone who would fight him inside, not flush. This fight could be alot closer than some of you think. If Tyson doesn't hit him on the chin, he's not knocking Frazier out, and frazier fought with his guard up when he was on the inside. I could see Tyson's punches landing on his guard maybe tiring him out, but I can't see Tyson knocking Frazier out early.
Why is everyone assuming smokin joe couldn't hit as hard as tyson. Look how foreman hit ali and didn't knock him down, frazier knocked him down with one punch. Also how many fighters would get up six times after being knocked down six times by george foreman. I dont think tyson hit as hard as foreman so Frazier would win this by ko after 8
I am not sure. Most seem to think Frazier would get killed, based on his two losses to George Foreman. Maybe, but remember, Foreman was alot stronger than Tyson. Tyson could probably hit at Foreman-level, but Foreman was stronger. He just overwhelmed Frazier with his size and strength. Tyson had the punching power, sure, but he lacked size. He would not be able to push Frazier around and make him back up. I actually believe Frazier to be stronger than Tyson!
Tyson would defintely have a good chance to beat Frazier if he could hurt him early. But if the fight goes beyond five rounds, Tyson gets it.
Another thing is Tysons lacking heart, combined with Fraziers lions heart. Tyson would most likely deck Frazier several times, but he gets easily frustrated and scared when his foe keep on coming like Frazier would.
I see this fight having to possible outcomes:
Scenario 1:
Tyson throws wild punches after only about two rounds, desperately seeking to put Frazier on the canvas for keeps. At this time, Frazier would slowely start taking control of the fight and a few rounds later, Frazier starts smokin´ and Tyson starts cryin´. A brutal tko inside ten rounds, possibly a UD.
Scenario 2:
Tyson comes out like he did with Spinks, throwing accurate combinations and using his speed and power to take control of the fight right away. Inside of three rounds the ref stops the fight. Tyson by Tko.
Like I said, I am not sure! Tyson might very well have beaten Frazier, but it is not the "sure thing" alot of you make it out to be in my opinion.
Tyson all over Frazier in the opening round. Frazier will be lucky if he gets out of it alive, if he chooses to stand close to tyson and fire back. It's a complete mismatch cause I think Tyson's stronger and faster.
Frazier would knock Tyson out in late rounds, but the only problem for Frazier is, it would never make it to late rounds. Tyson would be on him from the opening bell. Once Frazier got hurt (and a prime Tyson would definitely hurt Frazier) Tyson would finish him. Tyson Ko in 3
mike tyson in his prime would knock frazier out in 2 rounds, i guarentee it, althoguh frazier is one of the greatest fighters of all time, mike tyson had george foreman-like power
Anyone who looks at this fight without an agenda knows this is an easy fight to predict the outcome of.
There the same height 5'11, fight in the same style.
Except Tyson would have 20lbs of muscle on Frazier, Tyson would have much faster hands, Tyson could KO you with any punch from any angle with either hand while Frazier pretty much just had his left hook, Tyson would have a better chin,
Its a flat out mismatch.
I dont care who you are no smaller man in the history of this sport is just gonna walk right in and brawl with a prime Mike Tyson.
frazier wasnt tall..he was perfect hight to get all of prime tyson's fast and quick uppercuts...i say tyson doesnt even let it go to late rounds
tyson ko 3