Toney Undisputed Heavyweight Champ

Nah, I think you envy Tyson. Stop your crying already..

isnt toney injured, til middle of next year, at which point he'll be what?? 36?? 37??

Kid, what do you have against Tyson? He's an overrated frontrunner, with the biggest excuse-making, delusional fans in the history of sports. I'm no kid, kid...unlike you. I followed Tyson from his amateur days, & for the longest time, couldn't get enough of him. But, man....I got sick of hearing how invincible he was....& when he did get his ass handed to him (by Douglas) the guy sat around & allowed his promoter try & take the win away from the man who DESTROYED him. He eventually proved to be a fighter who's a BAD ASS only when he's kicking ass. Once things weren't 100% his way, he'd stop fighting as hard. Yet....here are guys like you, still sampling the overrated sack.

Kid, what do you have against Tyson?

Over Tyson's dead body.. Tyson would quit before he'd die in there.

Over Tyson's dead body..

I hope he gets (stays) healthy so he can come back and show that he can bang with these big fuckers. It'll be hard for these big heavies to hurt something that they are rarely hitting flush or at all. I'm interested to see how he would do against a McCline or Williams or Klit. Of course I have taken my stance on this and I definitely think Toney can win a title in the no so distant future.

Infamouz, I also saw James toney's last fight (Booker) and wasn't impressed at all. After the early rounds when he should have knocked booker out he stopped fighting and let him go the distance. Toney was injured in that fight but he should have disposed of him early when he had the chance.I think James toney is a great boxer with impressive skills but I dont think he could stand up to stronger heavyweights like the Klitschos or a Danny Williams.

I think there is a lot of hype about Toney. Lets not forget he is an aging middle weight who will soon be competing with some of the biggest heavyweights in history. People say that he has a great chin, at middleweight and lightheavy weight without a doubt this is true... but what happens when one of the big hitters lands one on him - I don't see how he will be able to take serious heavyweight damage. On the plus side, I am looking forward to seeing him in against a big, heavy hitting, experienced fighter.... It will be a relief to finally have him shut up. Wow, a newbie with some sense! We could use more of you

I think there is a lot of hype about Toney. Lets not forget he is an aging middle weight who will soon be competing with some of the biggest heavyweights in history. People say that he has a great chin, at middleweight and lightheavy weight without a doubt this is true... but what happens when one of the big hitters lands one on him - I don't see how he will be able to take serious heavyweight damage. On the plus side, I am looking forward to seeing him in against a big, heavy hitting, experienced fighter.... It will be a relief to finally have him shut up.

I think alot of you guys are missing a good point here. Everyone has an opinion, thats fine, but why just dismiss the idea that Toney should fight these guys? Toney is the one of the few guys in the HW division that can make things interesting. Who cares who wins, Toney against most of the top 10 HW's is more interesting than most of them fighting each other. Love him or hate him, Toney is the guy who can make some damn good fights right now. PS Whoever said Rachman beats Toney............now way, the skill level is lopesided and Toney has a great chin.

I'm not saying that Holy isn't shot and is not the same fighter or whatever. He is hurt and now has to smother the other fighter because he can't pick his left up to guard himself. I'm replying to someone saying that Toney has no HW power. He can certainly hurt you over the course of a fight. He hurt Evander (one of the toughest guys ever) over the course of their fight...and hurt Booker rather early on in their fight. I'm just saying that he does have enough power to hurt anyone after they eat so many shots.

So he's not tough anymore? He tore his rotator cuff against Byrd like Vitali did, except Holyfield kept fighting with it unlike Vitali. And now unlike Vitali his shoulder still bothers him.

Holyfield is shot and on top of that after the Byrd fight he is in tremendous pain just trying to keep his left arm up let alone throw a punch with it. So he's not tough anymore?

Toney doesn't have power at HW? Tell that to Holyfield...and don't give me that "Holy is shot" shit because he's still a tough guy regardless of his diminished skills. Toney has the stones to win the HW title. He could beat Vitali and I say that based on his experience, chin, superior defense, accurate punching...he wouldn't KO Vitali. It would be a late TKO or decision if anything. The only thing I see him having trouble with is getting inside. Vitali won't wanna take it inside so he would likely sit outside and try to pot shot. I wonder how JT would deal with that. Vitali most likely wouldn't come forward and rush Toney (maybe if he had a death wish) so Toney would have to keep his part of the action and come forward, which he proved he can do. Toney looked crappy against Jirov? Jirov makes everything look bad...in what aspect did James look bad? Holyfield is shot and on top of that after the Byrd fight he is in tremendous pain just trying to keep his left arm up let alone throw a punch with it.

Toney doesn't have power at HW? Tell that to Holyfield...and don't give me that "Holy is shot" shit because he's still a tough guy regardless of his diminished skills. Toney has the stones to win the HW title. He could beat Vitali and I say that based on his experience, chin, superior defense, accurate punching...he wouldn't KO Vitali. It would be a late TKO or decision if anything. The only thing I see him having trouble with is getting inside. Vitali won't wanna take it inside so he would likely sit outside and try to pot shot. I wonder how JT would deal with that. Vitali most likely wouldn't come forward and rush Toney (maybe if he had a death wish) so Toney would have to keep his part of the action and come forward, which he proved he can do. Toney looked crappy against Jirov? Jirov makes everything look bad...in what aspect did James look bad?

toney wont be able to hurt klitschko, he just doenst have power at HW and vitali would eventually outlast him

Toney cant beat Vitali. he can, but will he be able to? I think Vitali would either win a lopsided decision, or stop Toney. Toney beats Brewster, possibly Ruiz, i dont know if he could take byrd, but I would love to see them fight. He can beat Vitali, but he wouldnt.

Anyone can look impressive against Rydell Booker. Except if they can't get him out of there even though he's wobbly at Round 3 and their arms are so tight from overtraining that their corner has to massage them between rounds because their old body can't take the roids anymore. Does Toney even have 4 fights in him, even if the 4 champs lined up and somehow got beat by the guy (I give him 1-3 against the champs right now, 0-4 if Rahman meets Meehan and takes Lamon's belt)

He could be, but no one will give him a shot Unfortunately you hit the nail on the head. He can't get a fight with any of Don Kings stable of bums, because King always wants options. A fight with either Klit never seems to be able to be made. He is just kind of stuck. He the stands to win against most of the current top ten, and he has a chance of upsetting the others. A fight with Vitali would be very interesting no matter who wins, but it will take alot to make it happen.