I see Shamba running like Justin Gatlin in the first 3-4 rounds with Tzysu stalking him patiently...then as the middle rounds comes Tyzsu would have found his distance and begin to land rights after rights...Mitchell would try to hustle and fight back but the accumalative punches that Tyzsu landed would have taken its toll on his legs and energy.....Tyszu to win between rounds 9-12 by ko.
I just watched the fight again, and both guys were throwing when they were clinching.
Yep! I posted that they both did it, but did you notice either one of them doing it a bit more than the other? Maybe it was just me :o but I watched it again for the 3rd time last night and damned if it didnt look like Mitchell was holding him to keep him from hitting him...But, maybe that's 'just me' too...who knows? ;)
I'm not talking about during clinches. I'm talking about what is a blatant foul. fouling happens on the inside all the time, and I would say that most of it is unintential.
What I'm talking about is holding behind the head with one hand and pulling the head into the punching hand.
That's what I was referring to also; not clinching, etc. I watched it again last night and even though Kostya "returned" a couple of those 'sneaky' hold/hits, I still think it was Mitchell that really did it the most. And I got the impression (be it right or wrong) that he didnt do it so much to keep Tszyu from moving away, but to keep him from hitting him back. That would make sense, cause we all know what happens when Kostya Tszyu lands flush :eek: I could be wrong, that's just the way it appeared to me ;)
Why are you guys whinging about the hits to the head in close when they are 'holding'? If you watch the fight again, often the referee keeps calling to 'keep punching'.
I'm not talking about during clinches. I'm talking about what is a blatant foul. fouling happens on the inside all the time, and I would say that most of it is unintential.
What I'm talking about is holding behind the head with one hand and pulling the head into the punching hand.
Why are you guys whinging about the hits to the head in close when they are 'holding'? If you watch the fight again, often the referee keeps calling to 'keep punching'. Just because both fighters are in close and needing a bit of rest, expecting the ref to break them up, if he says 'keep punching' then its perfectly legal. Mitchell sat there like a bitch and Tszyu whacked him a couple - I thought i t was great.
The best part of this fight was KT's victory speech - seriously, that is what made him a champ. Other people talk shit but he sounded like an intelligent human - he doesnt say things unless he means them, and we have enough violence and bad-will in the world without that shit. It really moved me and made me proud to be a fan of his.
Edit: Where is that Damien character now? Hiding away in shame for bashing Tszyu like he did pre-match. That loser should get a clue about boxing before he starts bitching on great fighters again.
I may not have noticed it as much with Mitchell. If it comes on On Demand I'm going to watch again and look for it.
It was the blatantness of the way that Tzyu was doing it that caught my eye.
It comes back on tonight on Showtime Extreme and I'm taping it for someone so I'll be watching it again too....I'll pay better attention cause it may have been me just nit-picking the poor guy, but honestly it seemed like the one that was expected to fight dirty (Tszyu) was the one that didnt :eek: :D
I'll 'look' for you tomorrow and see what you think after watching it again ;)
Wait, wait, I just noticed you said IF it comes on On Demand....duh! Just post your opinion if you do see it again :)
I may not have noticed it as much with Mitchell. If it comes on On Demand I'm going to watch again and look for it.
It was the blatantness of the way that Tzyu was doing it that caught my eye.
I would have posted regarding this fight sooner, but I had a big cookout this weekend.
All I can say is, "wow".
I honestly expected Mitchell to make more of a fight out of it, especially with a ring the size of an aircraft hangar. WTF was Mitchell thinking trying to go toe to toe? That has got to be the stupidest game plan I have ever seen in a fight.
On the flip side of that, Judah is every bit as good, if not better, than Mitchell at using a large ring, and it didn't take Tzyu long to catch up with him, either.
From Tzyu's side, he looked just as good as always, though I did see something of some concern for his future as a fighter. He's always been a little rough in the ring, but I counted about 10 times where he would push the jab out slowly, get the left arm on Mitchell's shoulder, then pull with the left and punch with the right. Not nice Kostya.
If I had called this fight, I would have likely picked Mitchell with the long layoff, but given Tzyu a punchers chance. I expected it to go long, likely to a decision. I never expected it to end in 3.
And here I thought it was Mitchell that was doing all the holding and hitting! I kept yelling at the ref. to make him stop...it looked dirty as hell. It's weird that you saw it as Kostya doing it instead :confused:
I see a slow paced cautiuos type of fight early on from both.I think Sharmba will pick up the pace after one maybe two rounds, while Tszyu picks his spots carefully to the head & body.I think Tszyu will eventually turn up the heat and slow Mitchell down with his hard bodyshots.By the 7th Rd,I see Mitchell tiring which will give Tszyu the opportunity to corner him and bomb away causing the Ref to stop the fight.
I pick Tszyu by 7th Rd TKO
Damn,almost had it,lol
I would have posted regarding this fight sooner, but I had a big cookout this weekend.
All I can say is, "wow".
I honestly expected Mitchell to make more of a fight out of it, especially with a ring the size of an aircraft hangar. WTF was Mitchell thinking trying to go toe to toe? That has got to be the stupidest game plan I have ever seen in a fight.
On the flip side of that, Judah is every bit as good, if not better, than Mitchell at using a large ring, and it didn't take Tzyu long to catch up with him, either.
From Tzyu's side, he looked just as good as always, though I did see something of some concern for his future as a fighter. He's always been a little rough in the ring, but I counted about 10 times where he would push the jab out slowly, get the left arm on Mitchell's shoulder, then pull with the left and punch with the right. Not nice Kostya.
If I had called this fight, I would have likely picked Mitchell with the long layoff, but given Tzyu a punchers chance. I expected it to go long, likely to a decision. I never expected it to end in 3.
boy it sure is cool to come back to a predictions thread and make fun of people!! :rolleyes:
Don't worry I am going to be bringing back this thread the next time Tszyu owns someone on these people's lists.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2211
I'm putting it all on Mitchell to knock Tszyu out...IF Tszyu even shows up.
I wish that option were available in the betting. That Tszyu will pull out, because he probably will. I refuse to believe the fight even happens until the bell rings.
Tszyu is a scared bitch and he's got what is coming to him the next time he steps in the ring with almost anybody, let alone Mitchell.
What is this silly junk about "Has Mitchell stayed too active?" Hahahaha, yeah, they make it sound like he's been fighting every month. He's been fighting a rather normal fight schedule.
Mitchell was schooling Tszyu with one leg and now that he has 2 legs and sees Tszyu for the bitch he is, Mitchell will knock him out. Or definitely win a VERY lop-sided decision.
However, I cannot get up for this fight because ultimately, I expect Tszyu to pull out...again. He is notorious for pulling out of fights. He pulled out twice against Judah, and twice so far against Mitchell.
In their first fight, Mitchell had a real reason to pull out, but didn't. He was injured the night of the fight, but went on anyhow. And if Tszyu hadn't cheated and kept throwing Mitchell to the ground, Mitchell would've easily won. He was clearly winning. Those judges, I know what they had it, but they were wrong. Anybody that watches that fight cannot say with a clear conscience that Tszyu won that fight.
Is it safe to assume from this post that there will be no excuses for Mitchell's ass whipping?? Sharmba didnt bother to make any, which I respect him for ;)
when they call tszyu a bitch i cannot pass up the oppurtunity to make fun of them
tszyu is one of the harderst working, most determined, and most deserving champs out there
you're alright tech, just some comments on here made me laugh
when they call tszyu a bitch i cannot pass up the oppurtunity to make fun of them
tszyu is one of the harderst working, most determined, and most deserving champs out there