here comes the hate.........

Elveiel He is overrated, yet he has to move up 10 lbs from his prime weight to find someone who will beat him? Even when at his prime weight you had a monster like Diego Corrales....I kinda wish he stayed at 130 long enough to beat either Casamayor or Freitas. Then there would be no question in people's minds. thats true, there would be no question then.

Right now I got Hopkins P4P #1 just because Floyd has been inactive.

Elveiel He is overrated, yet he has to move up 10 lbs from his prime weight to find someone who will beat him. Even when at his prime weight you had a monster like Diego Corrales....I kinda wish he stayed at 130 long enough to beat either Casamayor or Freitas. Then there would be no question in people's minds. He's got to be the worlds number 1 p4p, i rate a lot higher than Hopkins because of the opponents he has face but my point is some people think he's this unbeatable superman who nobody has a chance against. If you rate him as p4p number 1, a brilliantly skilled fighter then your not overating him!! If you think he's unbeatable at any weight you seriously overating him. He's only human and will struggle at 140 and above!! There are a couple of fighters below 140 who would also give him a really tough fight.

Elveiel He is overrated, yet he has to move up 10 lbs from his prime weight to find someone who will beat him? Even when at his prime weight you had a monster like Diego Corrales....I kinda wish he stayed at 130 long enough to beat either Casamayor or Freitas. Then there would be no question in people's minds.

I like Floyd Mayweather, but am I the only one that likes him AND thinks he is slightly overrated? i know im gonna get tons of sh** for this, but it's true. :o I think he's overated, i know he beaten some top guys but people think he's unbeatable!!! I can see some guys at 140 beating him! He's a brilliant fighter but some people think he's superman!!

Godzhand.....I just don't agree. You watch Mayweather, watch the subtle things he does. Technically he is just plain BRILLIANT. He is the best technician in the sport. He is a guy who can stand right in front of his opponent and not get hit. The only time he was unsuccessful was the first time against Jose Luis Castillo....and where is Castillo now?

james toney is too skilled for braithwaite. james would eat him up. big truck could catch toney. thats the only chance of big truck beating jt. You maybe right but it would be an awesome fight. Big Truck can throw those power punches and i think he could definatly give Toney trouble. It would be explosive and i don't think Toney would stop him.

james toney is too skilled for braithwaite. james would eat him up. big truck could catch toney. thats the only chance of big truck beating jt.

I think he is overrated when he is put over Morales but i feel he is underrated when he is put under Hopkins. underrated compared to Hopkins? do you mean Bernard Hopkins? The guy that KO'd Tito Trinidad and Oscar DLH? Oh wait, thats right, Mayweather beat N'Dou, nevermind, your right. :D

And your point is? just wanted to if there was anyone that likes Floyd, and still thinks he is overrated. :confused:

He is NOT overratted. No one should have any p4p list without Floyd being #1 or #2. Floyd has beaten Legit top ten guys like N'Dou, Augustus and Sosa His Big wins Genaro Hernandez(WBC 130 champ at the time) Angel Manfredy(who was coming off a win over Gatti) Goyo Vargas(Former WBC featherweight champ) Diego Corrales(IBF jr Lightweight Champ and future WBO jr Lightweight and WBO Lightweight champ) Carlos Hernandez(Future IBF jr Lightweight Champ) Jesus Chavez(Future WBC jr Lightweight Champ) Jose Luis Castillo(WBC Light weight Champ and Future WBC Light weight Champ) Thats 4 fighters who went on to be Champions after there fights with Floyd. Both Corrales and Castillo are now top 10 p4p fighters. I thought Floyd lost the 1st Castillo fight, but he cameback and was flat out dominate in the rematch and you got to give hium credit than that. We all know Corrales is a great fighter and Floyd flat out destroyed him dropping him 5 times and making him just look plain foolish at times. Floyd deserves nothing but respect from hardcore fight fans. You may think he is an ass or whatever, but you cant knock his resume or his talent and if you try and do so your only going to make yourself look foolish. i give him all the respect in the world. but i still think he is overrated. thats it

I like Floyd Mayweather, but am I the only one that likes him AND thinks he is slightly overrated? i know im gonna get tons of sh** for this, but it's true. :o And your point is?

I think he is overrated when he is put over Morales but i feel he is underrated when he is put under Hopkins.

Norman stone is a penarse, he is always causing trouble, he's worse than what Rock used to be. I suppose with a fighter like Ruiz though he has to be the knob to get the headlines, as bad as ruiz is he is at least respectful Too true, John Ruiz seems chllied but i don't like Norman Stone either. He needs to calm down and stop getting angry all the time.

:) Yeah for sure, you've got me all excited now. I cannot wait to see what happens in the future. Have you seen Kelvin Davis? He is an ass who thinks he's a small version of Tyson. Big Truck will knock him over and then reverse back over him. :D I saw him at a press conderence and he was acting all angry trying to be like Tyson, it was so false it made me sick. Norman Stone wanted to fight him. :D Norman stone is a penarse, he is always causing trouble, he's worse than what Rock used to be. I suppose with a fighter like Ruiz though he has to be the knob to get the headlines, as bad as ruiz is he is at least respectful

The fight I really want to see is Brathwaite vs O'Niel Bell. Bell has been on a tear and KO'ed Davis recently Really? I didn't know that, there is some good fight potential in the Cruiserweight division at the moment. Perhaps better fights than any in the heavyweight division.

The fight I really want to see is Brathwaite vs O'Niel Bell. Bell has been on a tear and KO'ed Davis recently

Yeah...I wonder how long Toney would be able to take his blows. Toney has a great chin, excellent defense, and is a great counterpuncher. Big truck has the awesome power...but one thing I don't know about him is if his chin is solid. I haven't seen that much of him so I haven't really seen him get rocked. From what I hear he's underrated in a lot of other areas too. I would most likely go with James but there would always be the threat of Big Truck scoring the KD's and possibly TKO. :) Yeah for sure, you've got me all excited now. I cannot wait to see what happens in the future. Have you seen Kelvin Davis? He is an ass who thinks he's a small version of Tyson. Big Truck will knock him over and then reverse back over him. :D I saw him at a press conderence and he was acting all angry trying to be like Tyson, it was so false it made me sick. Norman Stone wanted to fight him. :D

"Big Truck" would KO both Davis and Mormeck in my opnion, but he needs to stay VERY far away from James Toney. Wayne is not sound enought to beat a guy like Toney.

I also think that there would be some great exchanges in that fight. Braithewaite's heavy blows thudding on Toney and JT's accurate shots popping Big Truck inside.