I know the Standing 8 rule wasn't in effect, but there has to be some way to call a knockdown when a guy gets shot across the ring as a cannonball and goes long periods of time without throwing a punch.
When Verno Phillips is all but sitting on the middle rope while being pummeled with shots, can't you call a knockdown.
Phillips took WAY too much punishment in the last 2 rounds. Twice he went down, and technically they were slips, but they were slips because the guy had NO LEGS.
I wouldn't want to be fighting with Cortez in the ring ; he's letting fighters beat fighters through the ropes.
I believe you are right, Cortez is really a irresponsible ref.... but it's not because of the incidents you quoted, those are debatable . . . argueable . . . the fact that until now he hasn't explained a shit on why he didn't deduct any point from Marquez after so many low blow warnings in that Pacquiao/Marquez fight I have reason to agree with you (or could we say bias?)
The rule is very clear on that and very simple for eveybody to understand . . . subsequent low blow after being given two earlier warnings should automatically result into a point deduction . . . I don't think that's argueable at all. Now watch that fight and count how many warnings Cortez gave Marquez :D.
Problem is the guy is still on the loose and nobody ever cares to investigate him on his questionable decissions and actions as a ref. I'll be DAMN.
Yeah and the way he didnt disqualify Manny for hitting Marquez when he was down. That Cortez!!!!! :D
Joe Cortez is the one of the best.
And its funny how you failed to mention that he didnt warn manny when he hit JMM when he was already down. Manny could have been DQ'd for that.
your stupid jmm was going down when manny hit him. he wasnt already down..
watch the video again dumbass!! even the annoucer said manny caught jmm going down...
jmm was stil up his arms was on the ropes when he hit him..
anyways that was the longest count ever even jmm thought it was over he put his head back down. then he notice cortez slow count so he got back up..
joe cortez is biased..
My main point was how he didn't protect Verno Phillips's safety last night while he couldn't defend himself.
No one else thought this?
Well you also have to remeber Ouma is not a big power puncher. Its not like Ouma was just teeing off on him or anything. The doctor checked Phillips out between rounds 11 and 12 and felt he was fine so they let him finish.
I had no problem with it.
Joe Cortez is the one of the best.
And its funny how you failed to mention that he didnt warn manny when he hit JMM when he was already down. Manny could have been DQ'd for that.
Joe Cortez an idiot.
Well he should have done something when JMM went down before Manny had a chance to hit him again. He just stood there in disbelief like an idiot. Marquez was holding on to the ropes trying to get up, so you bring him down :D . I don't think Manny saw his glove hit teh canvas.
he should'nt have stopped tha vargas-de la hoya fight
he should 've let oscar keep hittin him :D
thats what im sayin
lmao Vargas could have still won
he definatly should have let him keep goin
i would have loved to see Oscar beat Vargas's ass around the ring some more
That was Mills Lane that knocked Hopkins through the ropes
You're right. Cortez's deal with Hopkins was his Puerto Rican heritage and Bernard's Puerto Rico incident and Hopkins worried about fighting Allen with Cortez as referee. And it was in Allen I that the ropes incident happened.
I was exhausted last night rambling on a keyboard. Thanks for the info - I'll edit the post so I don't look retarded to the next guy...
Thanks Nick. I was gonna "get 'em" but you did just fine. Cortez is a good ref. If the corner thought Phillips had taken enough, then they should have thrown in the towel.
joe cortez is a hated man in many boxing circles.
Joe Cortez is the one of the best.
And its funny how you failed to mention that he didnt warn manny when he hit JMM when he was already down. Manny could have been DQ'd for that.
Thanks Nick. I was gonna "get 'em" but you did just fine. Cortez is a good ref. If the corner thought Phillips had taken enough, then they should have thrown in the towel.
Joe Cortez is the one of the best.
And its funny how you failed to mention that he didnt warn manny when he hit JMM when he was already down. Manny could have been DQ'd for that.