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  • Galento vs Butterbean

    Who you got, lads? They can both slug. Is this a well made match, or a mismatch?

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    Galento was the far more proven hwt boxer whereas Butterbean really was nothing more than a sideshow freak.

    Unfortunately it is lost in time the history of most fighters from that period. As examples few today realize the sensation Max Schmeling was when he came to the US and rose to be number one contender. His bouts drew record crowds with huge throngs being turned away at the box office. Galento although certainly denigrated for his sloppy persona and happy go lucky personality was a FEARED hwt contender known for his lethal KO power. Unlike Bean, Tony was a true and legitimate hwt contender winning 11 straight bouts by KO going into his bout with Louis for the worlds hwt championship. Bean in comparison never beat a single ranked hwt contender and never came close to fighting for a championship. Galento wins by KO within two rounds.

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    • #3
      If you look at Galentos run for his title shot from 1937 and his bout just a few months after being beaten by Louis a 14th round stoppage of highly regarded Lou Nova he went 12-1 only losing to Louis. A remarkable run. Nothing on Butterbeans resume is remotely close.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post
        Who you got, lads? They can both slug. Is this a well made match, or a mismatch?
        I honestly think, with no irony here that I could predict, to the round, what would happen in this fight: It would be a nightmare for the Bean, a real beating that would turn the bean into Hummus, or mashed bean pea.

        the Beans big problem is that Galento, while he likes to present a certain image, is deceptive. He did lots of roadwork, had good endurance, and was very technically proficient as a brawler, believe it or not. Most of the beans success revolves around keeping some guy at a distance. The bean's head is back, he has is girth that has to be encountered, meanwhile he is using his reach. Look at his fights if you don't believe me. heres why: Even though Bean does not have the wingspan of a guy like Wilder, His head is past his girth so to hit him someone has to get around him enough. This actually gives him the advantage he needs to keep a guy outside....Unfortunately aint happening with Toney.

        Galento will not even think twice and will absolutely never give bean any room. he will come in, head down, stick his head on bean's girth and fire away at will. he will pressure the bean from this position, hooking, uppercutting, stepping on his feet, hitting him in the gut, all the while with his head close enough that the bean cannot get to him.

        After around the third round the bean will be a bloody, protesting mess...His face will throb from Galento's head hitting in (like Evander did at times), his body will hurt from the punches he has absorbed and he will be exhausted from trying to keep Galento back. At this point Galento will low blow him, get him focused down stairs in some manner and hook him to sleep with a series of short punches. I would be suprised if the Bean lasted 5 rounds. In a 3 rounder the Bean escapes a KO but swears never to go near New jersey again.

        Oh and here is the reason; Galanto was an excellent inside fighter. before Marciano reinvented the the Hank Armstrong shuffle, Galento was a guy that was good enough at the brawl that he could get himself inside on guys who did not want him there. Two Ton was one of the best inside fighting heavies really. Its just that to his way of thinking, why waste time with footwork and angles? So he would throw himself in and stick there, would you want to try to keep him off of you? He stunk (yes he used Tuna Oil) would throw from any angle inside, and would just put his weight upon you. No way Bean can deal with someone as good from that range as Galento. I doubt Bean hits him once...Galento came in with his head down.
        Last edited by billeau2; 10-06-2018, 06:06 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by HOUDINI563 View Post
          Galento was the far more proven hwt boxer whereas Butterbean really was nothing more than a sideshow freak.

          Unfortunately it is lost in time the history of most fighters from that period. As examples few today realize the sensation Max Schmeling was when he came to the US and rose to be number one contender. His bouts drew record crowds with huge throngs being turned away at the box office. Galento although certainly denigrated for his sloppy persona and happy go lucky personality was a FEARED hwt contender known for his lethal KO power. Unlike Bean, Tony was a true and legitimate hwt contender winning 11 straight bouts by KO going into his bout with Louis for the worlds hwt championship. Bean in comparison never beat a single ranked hwt contender and never came close to fighting for a championship. Galento wins by KO within two rounds.
          You know what they say Houdini: Great minds are in the same gutter Galenta also had great stamina. He used to run at night after he closed his bar and did as much, if not more roadwork than some of the lithe guys who were in the division. Also one of the better guys inside ever...

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          • #6
            Several stories....

            Galento was on a tv show with Louis in the early 70’s that looked at old sporting events and had the participants provide commentary. Louis vs Galento was the topic one show. During the discussion “the bum of the month” came up. Galento took great offense being called a Bum. “I was no bum! I knocked out (he gave a list of contenders). I was no bum!”

            A more modern boxing trainer (forget who) shared a story of meeting an old Galento in the late 60’s at a boxing gym in NJ. He asked Tony to hit the heavy bag a few times. The trainer watched in awe how the now old Galento was able to cave the bag in two with his still very powerful left hook. The guy really could bang.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by HOUDINI563 View Post
              Several stories....

              Galento was on a tv show with Louis in the early 70’s that looked at old sporting events and had the participants provide commentary. Louis vs Galento was the topic one show. During the discussion “the bum of the month” came up. Galento took great offense being called a Bum. “I was no bum! I knocked out (he gave a list of contenders). I was no bum!”

              A more modern boxing trainer (forget who) shared a story of meeting an old Galento in the late 60’s at a boxing gym in NJ. He asked Tony to hit the heavy bag a few times. The trainer watched in awe how the now old Galento was able to cave the bag in two with his still very powerful left hook. The guy really could bang.
              And to dovetail: A story and a tape. When watching the tape think about whether, most heavyweights today, much less Butterbean, could do what Galenta does with the rope

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=438XDmGEIZQ


              And here is the story...jackie Gleason was doing a routine on stage and in walks this fat guy who is ribbing him to no end. Gleason tells the audience he is taking a break and would like to invite the fat guy outside to discuss his act. Well the guy practically jumps out of the chair. Gleason later comes too with a washcloth over his forehead. He asks "what happened?" he is told "that old fat guy? that was Tony Galenta."

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              • #8
                Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
                You know what they say Houdini: Great minds are in the same gutter Galenta also had great stamina. He used to run at night after he closed his bar and did as much, if not more roadwork than some of the lithe guys who were in the division. Also one of the better guys inside ever...
                Stamina would be the greatest factor here. Butterbean only fought fights longer than the pro minimum 4 rounds twice, going 10 rounds, once in Larry Holmes' last pro fight so Two Ton will rush in, get to work on him and once he gets past that 4th round, will drown The Bean in those deep waters. A 15 round boxer vs. a 4 rounder? Doesn't look too good for Butterbean.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
                  And to dovetail: A story and a tape. When watching the tape think about whether, most heavyweights today, much less Butterbean, could do what Galenta does with the rope

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=438XDmGEIZQ


                  And here is the story...jackie Gleason was doing a routine on stage and in walks this fat guy who is ribbing him to no end. Gleason tells the audience he is taking a break and would like to invite the fat guy outside to discuss his act. Well the guy practically jumps out of the chair. Gleason later comes too with a washcloth over his forehead. He asks "what happened?" he is told "that old fat guy? that was Tony Galenta."
                  Please now, that is nothing but average rope jumping. Who can do it? Every heavyweight worth anything, even today's

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                  • #10
                    Galento was as rough as they come and a killer in the ring. A feared brutal puncher.

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