is he underated to begin with ? he is in the top 5 or top 10 of most people at LHW, I think his resume speaks for itself, and I don't see why he would be underated
Mike was a very good Lt. Heavy and NOT a very good Heavy!! He was a terrific Middle in the amatuers and he and Leon cleaned up in the Olympics at Middle and Lt. Heavy (Leon)!!!
He lost to Holmes that was clear and the pay back from the Vegas boys for Holmes's big mouth about Marciano was evident!!! Thats what happened!!!
Spinks at 175 against a young 175 Holyfield would be interesting but at Cruiser Holyfield was too strong for Spinks. A very good fighter that to me is a HoF boxer but NOT an all time great. Theres alot of LtHeavies that fit right into his level and I'd guess he's a top 20 guy without giving it to much thought.
Yaqui Lopez
Bob Foster
Bob Montgomery
Saad Mohamed
Dwight Quawi
Eddie Mustafa
Victor Galandez
Evander Holyfield
Archie Moore
Duvale'
R.J.Jones
........................theres ALOT of very good LtHeavies................Ray.
................a few more good fighters
Willie Pastrano
Harold Johnson
Joey Maxim
Billy Conn
Bob Fitxsimons-----------(Montgomery ha!)
Battlin' Levinski
John Henry Lweis
Iran Barclay
Jose Torres
Dick Tiger
Mike Rossman
............................none of these men are not going to fight hard just as Mike did, I don't throw the word "great" around like most on this forum do. To me their are very few "true greats"!
If my opinions get so many so crazy I'll reframe from giving it!
The p4p crap gets ridiculous here and all time greats are often "solidly good fighters" that maybe have a few great attributes but their overall talents combined aren't GREAT! Why is very good so bad, theres been poor champions throughout boxing and a few really good fighters who weren't champs!!! To much emphasis on records and titles and not enough on willingness and desire. I see some modern day winners who don't show willingness and very little desire! Most look to go the distance and get the check and do it once a year! Ray.
................a few more good fighters
Willie Pastrano
Harold Johnson
Joey Maxim
Billy Conn
Bob Fitxsimons-----------(Montgomery ha!)
Battlin' Levinski
John Henry Lweis
Iran Barclay
Jose Torres
Dick Tiger
Mike Rossman
............................none of these men are not going to fight hard just as Mike did, I don't throw the word "great" around like most on this forum do. To me their are very few "true greats"!
If my opinions get so many so crazy I'll reframe from giving it!
The p4p crap gets ridiculous here and all time greats are often "solidly good fighters" that maybe have a few great attributes but their overall talents combined aren't GREAT! Why is very good so bad, theres been poor champions throughout boxing and a few really good fighters who weren't champs!!! To much emphasis on records and titles and not enough on willingness and desire. I see some modern day winners who don't show willingness and very little desire! Most look to go the distance and get the check and do it once a year! Ray.
Willie Pastrano and Micheal Spinks don't belong in the same sentence.
one of the greatest light heavys ever. Its been ages since I saw it but he pushed holmes all the way especially in that first one maybe didn't deserve the win there but gave an ATG heavyweight champ fits. And certainly no shame in being blown out by mike on that night, that was mike at his absolute peak and few would have survived beyond a few rounds against him. Spinks Holyfield would have been something.
He was undisputed lw champ and the linial hw champ until he ran into the tyson tornado.? I personally thought he did not win both holmes fights but he was right there.
Michael was, in a lot of ways, underrated, he didn't have many fights, even as a light heavyweight.If he hadn't been injured, and looking after Leon, he probably would've added a couple of more solid notches to his belt, including Saad Muhammad, and won the title possibly a year sooner.But he is easily top 10, top 5 of the greatest light heavyweights of all-time.
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