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  • Every Major Media Outlet had GGG Winning the Fight

    Every serious news media analyst had GGG winning this fight. I know we have a lot of fanboys on this site, but I'd like that to sink in for a second. Virtually no one serious in boxing world thought Canelo won. That is unless you're a Boxingscene member who enjoys stuffing Canelos balls in his mouth.


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    Mookie Alexander (Bloody Elbow) --------> 117-111 GGG
    Brian Campbell (CBS) ---------------------> 117-111 GGG
    Jack Rathborn (Mirror UK) ----------------> 117-111 GGG
    Harold Lederman (HBO) ------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Bryan Graham (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-112 GGG
    Dan Rafael (ESPN) ------------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Bob Velin (USA Today) --------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Kevin McRae (Bleacher Report) -----------> 116-112 GGG
    Shaun Al-Shatti (MMA Fighting) ----------> 116-112 GGG
    Ryan Frederick (Wrestling Observer) ----> 116-112 GGG
    Patrick Stumberg (MMA Mania) ----------> 116-112 GGG
    Kevin Mitchell (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-113 GGG
    Jordan Breen (Sherdog) ------------------> 115-112 GGG
    Kevin Iole (Yahoo) ------------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Will Esco (Bad Left Hook) -----------------> 115-113 GGG
    Phil Murphy (ESPN) -----------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Mike Harris (SI) ---------------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Paul Fontaine (Wrestling Observer) ------> 115-113 GGG
    MMA Brazil ---------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Sean Sheehan (Severe MMA) -------------> 115-113 GGG
    Rob Tatum (Combat Press) ----------------> 115-113 GGG
    Patrick Wyman (Bleacher Report) ---------> 115-113 GGG
    Lennox Lewis ------------------------------> Golovkin
    Teddy Atlas --------------------------------> Golovkin
    Sergio Martinez-------------------------------> Golovkin
    Terrance Crawford -------------------------------> Golovkin
    Enzo Macarenelli ---------------------------> Golovkin
    James Brady (SB Nation) ------------------> Golovkin
    Steven Muehlhausen (Sporting News) ----> 114-114 Draw
    Gilbert Manzano (Denver Post) -----------> 114-114 Draw
    Boxing Clever (Seen) ---------------------> 114-114 Draw
    Associated Press --------------------------> 114-114 Draw
    Lance Pugmire (LA Times) ----------------> 114-114 Draw
    Chris Mannix (Yahoo) ---------------------> 114-114 Draw
    De La Hoya --------------------------------> 115-113 Canelo
    Gareth Davies (UK Telegraph) -----------> 116-112 Canelo
    Last edited by JimRaynor; 09-17-2017, 10:49 AM.

  • #2
    What a fuccking joke... Gift draw for Canelo to save his career

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    • #3
      Do you have those scores?

      I'd be interested to see them.

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      • #4
        Also vast majority of HOFs and champions had it clear for GGG.

        I feel sorry for Canelo. It feels a bit like Bradley Manny 1. 118-110 ruined all IMO.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
          Do you have those scores?

          I'd be interested to see them.
          Mookie Alexander (Bloody Elbow) --------> 117-111 GGG
          Brian Campbell (CBS) ---------------------> 117-111 GGG
          Jack Rathborn (Mirror UK) ----------------> 117-111 GGG
          Harold Lederman (HBO) ------------------> 116-112 GGG
          Bryan Graham (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-112 GGG
          Dan Rafael (ESPN) ------------------------> 116-112 GGG
          Bob Velin (USA Today) --------------------> 116-112 GGG
          Kevin McRae (Bleacher Report) -----------> 116-112 GGG
          Shaun Al-Shatti (MMA Fighting) ----------> 116-112 GGG
          Ryan Frederick (Wrestling Observer) ----> 116-112 GGG
          Patrick Stumberg (MMA Mania) ----------> 116-112 GGG
          Kevin Mitchell (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-113 GGG
          Jordan Breen (Sherdog) ------------------> 115-112 GGG
          Kevin Iole (Yahoo) ------------------------> 115-113 GGG
          Will Esco (Bad Left Hook) -----------------> 115-113 GGG
          Phil Murphy (ESPN) -----------------------> 115-113 GGG
          Mike Harris (SI) ---------------------------> 115-113 GGG
          Paul Fontaine (Wrestling Observer) ------> 115-113 GGG
          MMA Brazil ---------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
          Sean Sheehan (Severe MMA) -------------> 115-113 GGG
          Rob Tatum (Combat Press) ----------------> 115-113 GGG
          Patrick Wyman (Bleacher Report) ---------> 115-113 GGG
          Lennox Lewis ------------------------------> Golovkin
          Teddy Atlas --------------------------------> Golovkin
          Sergio Martinez-------------------------------> Golovkin
          Terrance Crawford -------------------------------> Golovkin
          Enzo Macarenelli ---------------------------> Golovkin
          James Brady (SB Nation) ------------------> Golovkin
          Steven Muehlhausen (Sporting News) ----> 114-114 Draw
          Gilbert Manzano (Denver Post) -----------> 114-114 Draw
          Boxing Clever (Seen) ---------------------> 114-114 Draw
          Associated Press --------------------------> 114-114 Draw
          Lance Pugmire (LA Times) ----------------> 114-114 Draw
          Chris Mannix (Yahoo) ---------------------> 114-114 Draw
          De La Hoya --------------------------------> 115-113 Canelo
          Gareth Davies (UK Telegraph) -----------> 116-112 Canelo

          CompuBox ------> GGG landed about 50 more punches in the fight
          CompuBox ------> GGG landed more punches in 10 of the 12 rounds
          CompuBox ------> Canelo landed more power shots in 7 of the 12 rounds
          Last edited by Biolink; 09-17-2017, 10:14 AM.

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          • #6
            I think most people who had it beyond 7-5 either way might over value non-effective aggression or defense too much. And anyone who had it 7-5 either way should realize there were enough close rounds that the result was within the reasonable margin of error & 7-5 either way or a draw made sense for this fight of which 2 of the 3 cards had it & how most of the reasonable "media" people + pundits had it.

            Byrd made this fight look a lil bit like a joke there is no denying that doe. I think thats probably the one thing everyone can agree with whoever you thought won.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Biolink View Post
              CompuBox ------> GGG landed about 50 more punches in the fight
              CompuBox ------> GGG landed more punches in 10 of the 12 rounds
              CompuBox ------> Canelo landed more power shots in 7 of the 12 rounds
              I think that stat is being under discussed. As a bit of a punch stat dork one thing I've noticed for over a decade+ at this point is power punches>overall punches more often than not. Jabs aren't having the same effect on people viewing the fight as power punches that often look & are stronger + tend to kick back heads & make sweat fly wildly. That has impact with judges rightly or wrongly.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Biolink View Post
                Mookie Alexander (Bloody Elbow) --------> 117-111 GGG
                Brian Campbell (CBS) ---------------------> 117-111 GGG
                Jack Rathborn (Mirror UK) ----------------> 117-111 GGG
                Harold Lederman (HBO) ------------------> 116-112 GGG
                Bryan Graham (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-112 GGG
                Dan Rafael (ESPN) ------------------------> 116-112 GGG
                Bob Velin (USA Today) --------------------> 116-112 GGG
                Kevin McRae (Bleacher Report) -----------> 116-112 GGG
                Shaun Al-Shatti (MMA Fighting) ----------> 116-112 GGG
                Ryan Frederick (Wrestling Observer) ----> 116-112 GGG
                Patrick Stumberg (MMA Mania) ----------> 116-112 GGG
                Kevin Mitchell (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-113 GGG
                Jordan Breen (Sherdog) ------------------> 115-112 GGG
                Kevin Iole (Yahoo) ------------------------> 115-113 GGG
                Will Esco (Bad Left Hook) -----------------> 115-113 GGG
                Phil Murphy (ESPN) -----------------------> 115-113 GGG
                Mike Harris (SI) ---------------------------> 115-113 GGG
                Paul Fontaine (Wrestling Observer) ------> 115-113 GGG
                MMA Brazil ---------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
                Sean Sheehan (Severe MMA) -------------> 115-113 GGG
                Rob Tatum (Combat Press) ----------------> 115-113 GGG
                Patrick Wyman (Bleacher Report) ---------> 115-113 GGG
                Lennox Lewis ------------------------------> Golovkin
                Teddy Atlas --------------------------------> Golovkin
                Enzo Macarenelli ---------------------------> Golovkin
                James Brady (SB Nation) ------------------> Golovkin
                Steven Muehlhausen (Sporting News) ----> 114-114 Draw
                Gilbert Manzano (Denver Post) -----------> 114-114 Draw
                Boxing Clever (Seen) ---------------------> 114-114 Draw
                Associated Press --------------------------> 114-114 Draw
                Lance Pugmire (LA Times) ----------------> 114-114 Draw
                Chris Mannix (Yahoo) ---------------------> 114-114 Draw
                De La Hoya --------------------------------> 115-113 Canelo
                Gareth Davies (UK Telegraph) -----------> 116-112 Canelo

                CompuBox ------> GGG landed about 50 more punches in the fight
                CompuBox ------> GGG landed more punches in 10 of the 12 rounds
                CompuBox ------> Canelo landed more power shots in 7 of the 12 rounds
                Nice. Thanks.

                A lot of close cards there but yeah clearly the vast majority had GGG winning.

                I think obviously GGG has a strong case for winning but I dunno personally I thought Canelo nicked it

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                • #9
                  what were the draw odds then generally?

                  nobody said draw

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                  • #10
                    Canelo clearly won rounds 1,2,3,5,10,11,12

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