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  • #41
    Originally posted by Mirko Troll Cop View Post
    the same channel that had Pacquiao winning...
    Mayweather thought he beat Castillo in the first fight, guess we can't trust him either.

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    • #42
      There was actually a video on GGG's shifting, I believe by Wilson Kayden, 2 years ago. It's a Dempsey shift and GGG pulls it off beautifully.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Kim Jong-Un View Post
        Mayweather thought he beat Castillo in the first fight, guess we can't trust him either.
        yeah, Castillo vs Mayweather were so remotely close in style that industry was writing on how May vs Pac was so similar to it!

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        • #44
          Here we go again with the 'shifting'. Shifting in boxing is merely transferring your weight from ball to ball. Its not this.
          This is just a video made by some hack using incorrect terminology who wants people to think he knows what he is talking about.

          Its called over-extending, period & I don't care who or how many great fighters do it. You think they never had flaws? bad tendencies?

          When you switch hit there are certain distance where you are taught not to do it.

          Its an extremely dangerous technique that leaves you open for every single punch in the book and your momentum will be adding to it. You also run the risk of getting clocked squared up, mid-switch if you will.

          As for Pirog doing this he used shoulder feints, stayed low & utilised his switch hitting at the correct distance. Its not what is being taught here which is over-extending in punching range where just about any decent fighter will time you with a left hook, uppercut or take a short step back and crack you with a right hand.

          Go watch Carl Froch vs Kessler 1. The Froch vs Groves knockdown. Perfect examples of the dangers of doing this.

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            • #46
              You don't know shift about boxing.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
                George Groves KO1 GGG

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                • #48
                  "Shifting is probably a lost art it's a bit rigid. In the modern era we pivot now".....hahahahaha......
                  It's a bit rigid because you haven't practiced it 10,000 times to begin to have it become "natural"!

                  When you drop weight off AND pivot your gaining more power because of the weight transfer & pivot motion to bring it !

                  It is one the biggest transitions from amateur boxing to pro boxing! It is essential to become a quality inside fighter.

                  Canelo uses it with his body hook and has worked on it for his right hand too. It is easier to pefect to the body because your body target is so much larger and more stationary than the head.

                  Ray

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
                    Here we go again with the 'shifting'. Shifting in boxing is merely transferring your weight from ball to ball. Its not this.
                    This is just a video made by some hack using incorrect terminology who wants people to think he knows what he is talking about.

                    Its called over-extending, period & I don't care who or how many great fighters do it. You think they never had flaws? bad tendencies?

                    When you switch hit there are certain distance where you are taught not to do it.

                    Its an extremely dangerous technique that leaves you open for every single punch in the book and your momentum will be adding to it. You also run the risk of getting clocked squared up, mid-switch if you will.

                    As for Pirog doing this he used shoulder feints, stayed low & utilised his switch hitting at the correct distance. Its not what is being taught here which is over-extending in punching range where just about any decent fighter will time you with a left hook, uppercut or take a short step back and crack you with a right hand.

                    Go watch Carl Froch vs Kessler 1. The Froch vs Groves knockdown. Perfect examples of the dangers of doing this.
                    You're partially correct. The person who made this video seems to be very familiar with one of the most important figures in Soviet/Russian boxing history (Gradopolov) and how that school of fighting developed. You could say that in that regard, he is more knowledgeable than you.

                    You can argue about the terminology, but this is one of the key components in the Russian style (which has been proven to be quite effective) that is drilled into young fighters. It is different from simple overextending or what Froch does.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by dan_cov View Post
                      Here we go again with the 'shifting'. Shifting in boxing is merely transferring your weight from ball to ball. Its not this.
                      This is just a video made by some hack using incorrect terminology who wants people to think he knows what he is talking about.

                      Its called over-extending, period & I don't care who or how many great fighters do it. You think they never had flaws? bad tendencies?

                      When you switch hit there are certain distance where you are taught not to do it.

                      Its an extremely dangerous technique that leaves you open for every single punch in the book and your momentum will be adding to it. You also run the risk of getting clocked squared up, mid-switch if you will.

                      As for Pirog doing this he used shoulder feints, stayed low & utilised his switch hitting at the correct distance. Its not what is being taught here which is over-extending in punching range where just about any decent fighter will time you with a left hook, uppercut or take a short step back and crack you with a right hand.

                      Go watch Carl Froch vs Kessler 1. The Froch vs Groves knockdown. Perfect examples of the dangers of doing this.
                      No what Froch is doing is over extending and it's dangerous if you leave your chin in the air and head on the center line but that's what you get when you're absent of technique. You being unable to note the difference says something about you but keep living inside your box.

                      I suppose Jack Dempsey was confused when he classified it as a technique and dedicated space in his boxing manual to teach it.

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