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  • Originally posted by Jubei View Post
    Carlos Molina outboxed and embarrassed Lara.

    Angulo knocked Lara around the ring, dropped him a couple times.

    Canelo, the guy who is scared to death about facing GGG won against Lara.

    Pirog was kinda special in his own way.

    You think Lara is better than Jacobs?

    First of all Jacobs is bigger, taller, more exciting, stronger and he knocked out Quillin. Also Jacobs is a big middleweight, Lara hasn't even fought at Middleweight once.

    Who did Lara beat?
    NO one can take you serious when you say Leo Santa Cruz is a ducker when he was nominated for fight of the year against Mares last year. And he's fighting Frampton next. Your just a POS TROLL!!! So TROLL-ON DUMB FK!


    Jubei; : is spam: saying how much $$$$ he makes on his computer in his two dads basement.

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    • Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
      Jacobs is coming to the table with the backing of Barclays Center, Showtime, and Al Haymon, faced against a camp that arguably doesn't have the same backing from venue or channel.

      With Golovkin on the verge of basically being forced to fight Jacobs on Jacobs' terms, or K2 trying to convince him to drop the belt, Jacobs has Golovkin's camp over a barrel without really needing to say a word.

      The moment the Canelo talks die officially, K2 is going to have a week or so to control their own destiny (pay Billy Joe Saunders' price to secure a WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO unification fight) or leave things to the hopes and whims of DiBella/Haymon/Espinoza not playing hardball against them.
      This comment is so ****** lol. Golovkin is about as high on the HBO totem pole as anyone. He is their new Pacquiao at least for another 18 months or so before he gets old. He has the backing of MSG, the Forum, HBO, and K2. He's also headlined a PPV which Jacobs has never done. He also has 3 legitimate belts Jacobs has zero. You have no idea what you're talking about, it's obvious you're just another biased black boxing fan whose logic flies out the window when a black boxer comes into the picture. I usually write longer explanations but there's nothing else to explain here. You have a racial bias which causes you to say ridiculous things, period. Nothing else to discuss.

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      • You just know someone loves duckers or is a fan boy when they start bringing up politics to defend their fighter ducking. If Jacobs actually wanted to fight the best, he has GGG cornered. He's worked his way to being GGG's mandatory, and he could call him out and put pressure on the WBA to force the purse bid immediately, then go get a career high payday against GGG and a chance to win three belts.

        Think about where GGG was a couple years ago, dying to find any competitive opponents in his division, and what he would have given for the chance to win three belts in one fight, what he would have given to get a chance at the biggest name in his division like the Sergio Martinez fight.

        Danny Jacobs is in that position now, so why isn't he pushing for the fight like GGG pushed for the Martinez fight?

        Well, the answer is simple. Because GGG is way better than Martinez, and Jacobs is way worse than GGG. Jacobs is afraid to lose and get knocked out again, and so is his manager/promoter Al Haymon, so they're ducking GGG. That's all there is to it. Anything else people bring up is just to distract from the fact that GGG is the better fighter, and Jacobs and Haymon know it. They don't want to fight the best in their division. They are duckers. They are ruining boxing, any anyone who supports Jacobs as a boxer right now or Haymon is not a real boxing fan, they are in almost all cases just race fans.

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        • Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
          He's available now and Lara is calling him out...
          Lara can talk about it but is he gonna be about it!

          Unlike the seldom spectators, boxing enthusiats know about the political side of things! It's really up to these promoters nowadays, a la Golden Boy, to make the call for a high risk fight! As for Lara, it comes down to Al Haymon, Lara's owner if you will! There's also complication of networks here, and obviously, the fight will have to air on HBO (PPV most likely)!

          Does anyone really believe GGG is scared to go heads up against any fighter right now at 160, especially a 154lber?

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          • Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
            This comment is so ****** lol. Golovkin is about as high on the HBO totem pole as anyone. He is their new Pacquiao at least for another 18 months or so before he gets old. He has the backing of MSG, the Forum, HBO, and K2. He's also headlined a PPV which Jacobs has never done. He also has 3 legitimate belts Jacobs has zero. You have no idea what you're talking about, it's obvious you're just another biased black boxing fan whose logic flies out the window when a black boxer comes into the picture. I usually write longer explanations but there's nothing else to explain here. You have a racial bias which causes you to say ridiculous things, period. Nothing else to discuss.
            Gennady Golovkin, in his debut fight on PPV, according to no one else but his fight promoter, did 150k PPV buys (with no one else corroborating the number, my guess is that the actual number was lower). Golovkin did sell out MSG (within days of the fight, but it was definitely an accomplishment that he sold out the building), but K2 has run the Forum on two occasions, yet have refused to, on both times, open up the full building.

            The most disclosed money that's been paid out for a Golovkin fight card (sans the PPV, where the main event had $3.5m guaranteed payout) was the ~$3m that HBO put up for the Golovkin-Wade fight card.

            Showtime shellled out $3m for the Jacobs-Quillin fight alone, with 5 fights on the bill being broadcast for TV (no doubt that the top three fights didn't come cheap).

            Dollar for dollar, the cost to put on Jacobs-Quillin likely ended up matching the payouts for Golovkin-Lemieux, yet HBO had so little confidence in backing their guy that they moved their fight to PPV.

            keep your head in the sand if you want.

            Beside that, are you really going to argue that Golovkin has three legitimate belts? Say what you want about Jacobs being the #2 WBA champion, at least he actually beat the #3 WBA champion to win the vacant #2 belt (which he's now defended 3 times, with the fourth defense coming this summer).

            Who has Golovkin actually beat for any of his "legitimate belts"?:

            -WBA: Golovkin beat Milton Nunez (a fighter making his debut at 160lbs) for the WBA's #3 160lb belt, before being handed the #2 and #1 WBA belts

            -WBC: beat Marco Antonio Rubio, for an interim belt that he basically got out of the air, before being just handed the full title

            -IBF: beat David Lemieux, who won the vacant belt in the oddest vacant title fight I've ever seen (Lemieux and N'Dam's promoter conspiring to not only short N'Dam on the money, but also title every fight advantage in favor of the #7/8 challenger (Lemieux) against theIBF's top challenger(N'Dam))

            -IBO: lol, the organization seemingly stripped Avtandil Khurtsidze to give the belt to Golovkin, a junk fight against a guy who was 3-3 in his last six, losing the fight right before the "title shot".


            You look at the man's actual resume and the fact that his IBF title is basically the most legit one is laughable yet true.

            When presented with clear, concise, even-handed information that you seemingly can't refute, you default to trying to make race an issue of the conversation. that's your m.o., so whatever.

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            • Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER View Post
              Boy shut up trying to switch it around like you really cared about his health. Save that corny alt excuse, I been here 3 years I just don't post ****** stuff like "why does he look so old"...why would we care about how a boxer looks??? If you know he has that illness then it seems like you answered your own question. So again why post such a dumb question??

              "Man, go **** yourself and don't come for me, because i never sent call you."

              What are you a 15year old girl? "don't come for me" ..mite as well snap your fingers twice after saying that..
              I am not the one dumb enough to catch feelings over a rhetorical question. You even point that out your damn self. People are free to respond how they want, pvssy. Notice, i didn't start a thread? Also, you are right, i don't care about his health, because i don't know him personally, but the fact he claimed he is a cancer survivor, it is a reason for concern with the way he looks. As for his boxing, i really don't care much, because he is a coward. Him and Quillen both. One Eastern European badass is making all of them run for cover. GGG is going to make Jacobs fight tune ups for the rest of his life.

              Yeah, i am a teenage girl, don't you want a ****? I know dumb mother****as only **** teenage girls because you can't deal with a mature woman. Mother****as like you are too emotionally unstable. Are you the product of single mom? No paps around, uh? Here catching feelings over a rhetorical question. Oh, **** sake, it is month end, did you mistakenly left your tampon in, pvssy, or is it hot flashes?

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              • Originally posted by bigjavi973 View Post
                He already has the fight next f the canelo talks fall through. In the mean time he should take a stay busy fight.
                I heard it's Jacobs vs. Mora II. I don't like that AT ALL! It's those "so-called" stay busy fights that always bite you in the a$$!

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                • Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                  Gennady Golovkin, in his debut fight on PPV, according to no one else but his fight promoter, did 150k PPV buys (with no one else corroborating the number, my guess is that the actual number was lower). Golovkin did sell out MSG (within days of the fight, but it was definitely an accomplishment that he sold out the building), but K2 has run the Forum on two occasions, yet have refused to, on both times, open up the full building.

                  The most disclosed money that's been paid out for a Golovkin fight card (sans the PPV, where the main event had $3.5m guaranteed payout) was the ~$3m that HBO put up for the Golovkin-Wade fight card.

                  Showtime shellled out $3m for the Jacobs-Quillin fight alone, with 5 fights on the bill being broadcast for TV (no doubt that the top three fights didn't come cheap).

                  Dollar for dollar, the cost to put on Jacobs-Quillin likely ended up matching the payouts for Golovkin-Lemieux, yet HBO had so little confidence in backing their guy that they moved their fight to PPV.

                  keep your head in the sand if you want.

                  Beside that, are you really going to argue that Golovkin has three legitimate belts? Say what you want about Jacobs being the #2 WBA champion, at least he actually beat the #3 WBA champion to win the vacant #2 belt (which he's now defended 3 times, with the fourth defense coming this summer).

                  Who has Golovkin actually beat for any of his "legitimate belts"?:

                  -WBA: Golovkin beat Milton Nunez (a fighter making his debut at 160lbs) for the WBA's #3 160lb belt, before being handed the #2 and #1 WBA belts

                  -WBC: beat Marco Antonio Rubio, for an interim belt that he basically got out of the air, before being just handed the full title

                  -IBF: beat David Lemieux, who won the vacant belt in the oddest vacant title fight I've ever seen (Lemieux and N'Dam's promoter conspiring to not only short N'Dam on the money, but also title every fight advantage in favor of the #7/8 challenger (Lemieux) against theIBF's top challenger(N'Dam))

                  -IBO: lol, the organization seemingly stripped Avtandil Khurtsidze to give the belt to Golovkin, a junk fight against a guy who was 3-3 in his last six, losing the fight right before the "title shot".


                  You look at the man's actual resume and the fact that his IBF title is basically the most legit one is laughable yet true.

                  When presented with clear, concise, even-handed information that you seemingly can't refute, you default to trying to make race an issue of the conversation. that's your m.o., so whatever.
                  Which "legitimate" middleweight champions did GGG turn down?

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                  • Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                    Gennady Golovkin, in his debut fight on PPV, according to no one else but his fight promoter, did 150k PPV buys (with no one else corroborating the number, my guess is that the actual number was lower). Golovkin did sell out MSG (within days of the fight, but it was definitely an accomplishment that he sold out the building), but K2 has run the Forum on two occasions, yet have refused to, on both times, open up the full building.

                    The most disclosed money that's been paid out for a Golovkin fight card (sans the PPV, where the main event had $3.5m guaranteed payout) was the ~$3m that HBO put up for the Golovkin-Wade fight card.

                    Showtime shellled out $3m for the Jacobs-Quillin fight alone, with 5 fights on the bill being broadcast for TV (no doubt that the top three fights didn't come cheap).

                    Dollar for dollar, the cost to put on Jacobs-Quillin likely ended up matching the payouts for Golovkin-Lemieux, yet HBO had so little confidence in backing their guy that they moved their fight to PPV.

                    keep your head in the sand if you want.

                    Beside that, are you really going to argue that Golovkin has three legitimate belts? Say what you want about Jacobs being the #2 WBA champion, at least he actually beat the #3 WBA champion to win the vacant #2 belt (which he's now defended 3 times, with the fourth defense coming this summer).

                    Who has Golovkin actually beat for any of his "legitimate belts"?:

                    -WBA: Golovkin beat Milton Nunez (a fighter making his debut at 160lbs) for the WBA's #3 160lb belt, before being handed the #2 and #1 WBA belts

                    -WBC: beat Marco Antonio Rubio, for an interim belt that he basically got out of the air, before being just handed the full title

                    -IBF: beat David Lemieux, who won the vacant belt in the oddest vacant title fight I've ever seen (Lemieux and N'Dam's promoter conspiring to not only short N'Dam on the money, but also title every fight advantage in favor of the #7/8 challenger (Lemieux) against theIBF's top challenger(N'Dam))

                    -IBO: lol, the organization seemingly stripped Avtandil Khurtsidze to give the belt to Golovkin, a junk fight against a guy who was 3-3 in his last six, losing the fight right before the "title shot".


                    You look at the man's actual resume and the fact that his IBF title is basically the most legit one is laughable yet true.

                    When presented with clear, concise, even-handed information that you seemingly can't refute, you default to trying to make race an issue of the conversation. that's your m.o., so whatever.
                    What point are you trying to make here?

                    The Quillin-Jacobs event lost a ton of money, they sold roughly 9000 tickets and had 300k viewers... no way those numbers covered the 3 million purse, GGG is more marketable than Jacobs any day of the week. The fact that you think he needs to compromise to make the matchup is simply asinine.

                    All you're proving is that anyone holding a belt (except Lemieux) would rather drop it than defend it against GGG.

                    I'm not one of these G-tards that slurps everything he and his promoter/trainer put out there but at 160 there is no valid criticism of this man, Jacobs is very overrated in my opinion and Golovkin would make short work of him. I'm certain Jacobs knows this too otherwise he would be more vocal about the fight.

                    He doesn't have to call out GGG but lets not find some silly way to make this a criticism of Golovkin.

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                    • Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
                      Gennady Golovkin, in his debut fight on PPV, according
                      Twisting and turning as usual. Showtime can afford to overpay Jacobs/Quillin (neither being a main event before that fight unless you count Quillin/Zerafa, lol), b/c all the other Haymon fighters are getting hedge fund money to appear off Showtime.

                      Compare Jacobs/Quillin to Golovkin/Geale. Jacobs/Quillin, two Brooklyn guys, sold fewer tickets in NY than a Kazakh and Australian. Jacobs/Quillin, two US guys had less than half as many tv viewers as well.

                      Whine all you want about who Golovkin beat for his belts, but he had a lot of people moving out of his way. For the WBA, Golovkin won a purse bid to fight Anthony Mundine in Australia. Mundine dropped out. Khurtsidze was the first guy Golovkin contacted to fight for the vacant WBA interim title. Khurtsidze turned Golovkin down.

                      Unlike Jacobs, Golovkin forced the WBA to give him both the Super Champion Sturm and Interim Champion N'Dam. N'Dam vacated and Sturm paid $300k to put off the fight for over a year. Then before he was finally forced to take the fight he got the Geale unification to bypass the mandatory. Former WBA interim champion - Chudinov couldn't even get Jacobs to fight him.

                      Golovkin offered to fight Martinez in Argentina instead of Murray, but DiBella said "[Martinez] is not going to come off a 14-month layoff and fight this animal,". That was despite DiBella telling Golovkin that if he beat Macklin that he'd get a fight with Martinez.

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