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  • #11
    Originally posted by Monaco View Post
    Where is your source for that? The UFC is a private company, they're not legally obliged to release the official numbers, they can throw anything out there and Quinton "Rampage" Jackson has already exposed the UFC for throwing around numbers north of a million yet paying fighters as if they sold a completely different number of PPV's

    The fact that anyone thinks the UFC and Conor Mcgregor are on the same level as a Mayweather fight is beyond a joke and they must live on the internet. Nobody is buzzing about a UFC fight in real life, nobody talks about that on the streets.
    I think Meltzer/Helwani said that and it wasn't really met with any sort of opposition as Meltzer is usually on point apparently. I think it may have been him. Usually if something is off, you get your fair share of people involved in MMA making it be known, ala frontrowbrian/sherdog posters/jeremybotter etc.

    Dana White also said it was their biggest and most successful event ever. Theres also a link I saw which shows how many records that event broke for the UFC.

    Don't know about in the states but here in the UK, McGregor is a pretty well known guy now. Especially impressive as MMA isn't as big around here as Boxing is and the fact that he hasn't even been around that long. McGregor isn't as big as Floyd is, but who is? Floyds been doing this at the highest level for a ridiculous amount of time. McGregor has only been in the UFC for a couple of years and is doing some impressive numbers.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by hayZ View Post
      I think Meltzer/Helwani said that and it wasn't really met with any sort of opposition as Meltzer is usually on point apparently. I think it may have been him. Usually if something is off, you get your fair share of people involved in MMA making it be known, ala frontrowbrian/sherdog posters/jeremybotter etc.

      Dana White also said it was their biggest and most successful event ever. Theres also a link I saw which shows how many records that event broke for the UFC.

      Don't know about in the states but here in the UK, McGregor is a pretty well known guy now. Especially impressive as MMA isn't as big around here as Boxing is and the fact that he hasn't even been around that long. McGregor isn't as big as Floyd is, but who is? Floyds been doing this at the highest level for a ridiculous amount of time. McGregor has only been in the UFC for a couple of years and is doing some impressive numbers.
      Does Meltzer, frontrowbrian and any of these other MMA "journalist" goons have any legal right to know what the official numbers are? Are they a private shareholder? no? Then their opinion is absolutely worthless.

      Dana White is throwing these ridiculous numbers around because everyone knows the rest of his PPV's the last 2 years haven't amounted to ****, so he's trying to claim a high number to pretend the UFC is doing fine, when everyone knows they're struggling and have been going down hill rapidly ever since Lesnar left.

      Do you really believe that this fight was as hyped up as Mayweather vs Cotto which did 1.6 million buys? Were as many people talking about Mcgregor vs Diaz as they were Mayweather vs Cotto? A Mayweather fight has a much more special feeling than a UFC fight, UFC will never pull Mayweather numbers.
      Last edited by Monaco Slim; 03-23-2016, 10:39 PM.

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      • #13
        Bout f#cking time. Amazing this took so long to happen.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Monaco View Post
          Does Meltzer, frontrowbrian and any of these other MMA "journalist" goons have any legal right to know what the official numbers are? Are they a private shareholder? no? Then their opinion is absolutely worthless.

          Dana White is throwing these ridiculous numbers around because everyone knows the rest of his PPV's the last 2 years haven't amounted to ****, so he's trying to claim a high number to pretend the UFC is doing fine, when everyone knows they're struggling and have been going down hill rapidly ever since Lesnar left.

          Do you really believe that this fight was as hyped up as Mayweather vs Cotto which did 1.6 million buys? Were as many people talking about Mcgregor vs Diaz as they were Mayweather vs Cotto? A Mayweather fight has a much more special feeling than a UFC fight, UFC will never pull Mayweather numbers.
          Yeah, but who does? It's not a common occurrence overall in boxing or MMA. Now that Mayweather is retired, is there anyone generating the buzz and PPV buys that he did? Pacquiao is retiring after his next fight as well. Hardly anyone in the US watches boxing anymore except for the hardcore fans, unless another big star comes along. How badly are they struggling and according to what sources? And even if the UFC were sold or went out of business, the sport would still be around, just like boxing.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Anthony342 View Post
            Yeah, but who does? It's not a common occurrence overall in boxing or MMA. Now that Mayweather is retired, is there anyone generating the buzz and PPV buys that he did? Pacquiao is retiring after his next fight as well. Hardly anyone in the US watches boxing anymore except for the hardcore fans, unless another big star comes along. How badly are they struggling and according to what sources? And even if the UFC were sold or went out of business, the sport would still be around, just like boxing.
            Ticket sales and TV ratings are at the same numbers that they were drawing in 2006, before they got popular. 90% of their PPV's aren't selling well enough to generate a profit, the only ones doing pretty decent were Conor and Rousey. They only got two good PPV's out of Conor and two out of Rousey.

            3 fights ago Rousey officially failed to sell more than 6000 tickets in a 20,000 seat arena, and the UFC had the nerve to claim that she sold 500,000 PPV's for that event, that's how far the UFC will go to try and generate buzz.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Monaco View Post
              Does Meltzer, frontrowbrian and any of these other MMA "journalist" goons have any legal right to know what the official numbers are? Are they a private shareholder? no? Then their opinion is absolutely worthless.

              Dana White is throwing these ridiculous numbers around because everyone knows the rest of his PPV's the last 2 years haven't amounted to ****, so he's trying to claim a high number to pretend the UFC is doing fine, when everyone knows they're struggling and have been going down hill rapidly ever since Lesnar left.

              Do you really believe that this fight was as hyped up as Mayweather vs Cotto which did 1.6 million buys? Were as many people talking about Mcgregor vs Diaz as they were Mayweather vs Cotto? A Mayweather fight has a much more special feeling than a UFC fight, UFC will never pull Mayweather numbers.
              I wouldn't say Floyds fights vs Berto, Guerrero, Maidana had a huge amount of buzz. Did you see the kind of numbers McGregors pre-fight press conference did in terms of viewers on YouTube? Ridiculously high. MMA outlets like MMAFighting were saying that fight broke records for traffic for their site.

              I will be honest though, it surprised me that it did 1.5mill. I thought it would do somewhere between 900k-1.1m. The UFC is so much better at promoting their fighters than Boxing is. Conor did a **** ton of media, radio shows, tv, social media and the UFC embedded.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Monaco View Post
                Ticket sales and TV ratings are at the same numbers that they were drawing in 2006, before they got popular. 90% of their PPV's aren't selling well enough to generate a profit, the only ones doing pretty decent were Conor and Rousey. They only got two good PPV's out of Conor and two out of Rousey.

                3 fights ago Rousey officially failed to sell more than 6000 tickets in a 20,000 seat arena, and the UFC had the nerve to claim that she sold 500,000 PPV's for that event, that's how far the UFC will go to try and generate buzz.
                Yes I know. And what other boxers generate the kind of buzz Mayweather did and gets those kind of PPV buys?

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Anthony342 View Post
                  Yes I know. And what other boxers generate the kind of buzz Mayweather did and gets those kind of PPV buys?
                  PPV buys aren't everything since not everyone lives in the US, TV numbers and ticket sales are a good indicator.

                  Ricky Hatton would pack arena's everywhere he fought, even bringing tens of thousands of British fans to America with him.

                  Carl Froch packed Wembley with 80,000 people and made retirement money

                  David Haye has made enough to retire

                  Klitschko could have retired like 6 years ago, he's had fights that have broken multiple records in terms of TV viewership

                  Golovkin is doing great numbers on HBO and is selling out everywhere he fights

                  Kell Brook is selling out in the UK and making decent money

                  Canelo is drawing huge money despite his age

                  Khan is about to make millions for the Canelo fight

                  Tyson Fury just won the heavyweight title and is going to make massive money, even in mandatory fights.

                  there's a lot of guys having success in Boxing right now so its still healthy despite not having a Mayweather level PPV seller, but in the UFC only Conor is and maybe Ronda (if anyone still cares about her, that remains to be seen), can sell out an arena in MMA. Even then they were a draw for, it was only for a maximum of 2 fights each which really isn't that much money generated.

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                  • #19
                    Boxing needs to pick it up. UFC fighters keep getting exposed but it doesn't matter, Dana White knows how to manufacture a "good" fighter and make him/her appear great as well as HBO used to do. Boxing is slacking right now with fighters turning down fights left and right.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
                      Boxing needs to pick it up. UFC fighters keep getting exposed but it doesn't matter, Dana White knows how to manufacture a "good" fighter and make him/her appear great as well as HBO used to do. Boxing is slacking right now with fighters turning down fights left and right.
                      Its definitely slacking, but at least we've not got a lack of stars, they're all ready and waiting for these big name cowards to offer them a fight and once they're established then the major PPV's will start happening. We've got a whole new exciting era of heavyweight boxing to look forward to as well.

                      Wilder vs Povetkin in Russia

                      Fury vs Klitschko 2 in the UK

                      David Haye coming out of retirement

                      Anthony Joshua is fighting for the IBF heavyweight title in 2 weeks

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