Jamal Khashoggi, saudi journalist, murdered in Turkey by Saudis.

[Left Hook Tua]

And the pumping up of volume is what led to lower prices?

Hmmmm

More production, more oil

More oil, more supply

More supply, lower demand

Lower demand, lower price

[siablo14]

Hmmmm

More production, more oil

More oil, more supply

More supply, lower demand

Lower demand, lower price

It doesn't seem to be Saudi Arabia's completely leading to the decrease because:

In fact, as Bloomberg’s Javier Blas writes Wednesday, the main structural force bringing down oil prices is the United States of America, where technological improvements in the Permian Basin in West Texas have drilled more than 100,000 new wells, many of which “would turn a profit even with crude prices as low as $30 a barrel.”

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-america-first

That link is a great article by the way. I don't think you will enjoy reading it because it will have you in your feelings.

[siablo14]

Hmmm. Something to think about:

President Donald Trump's hotel in New York City earlier this year reversed a two-year trend of declining rental revenue after travelers with crown prince of Saudi Arabia booked rooms there, a new report said Friday.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/03/saud...sing-drop.html

That article is from August.

Also, MBS didn't personally stay there because it was too dingy and small for his liking.

[Vlad_]

[John Barron]

MbS purged many Saudi royalty and rich businessmen involved in the government when he took power. i'm willing to bet many of those people had ties with bin laden, as well as ISIS and surely our deep state. the deep state do not like MbS for "reasons". 9/11 is how bush got his lucrative war in Iraq. 20% of hillary's campaign was funded by Saudis. who were the bush family actively shilling for in the 2016 election? i'm just saying.

[ΣNΣMY]

[John Barron]

And here I thought Bush decorated missiles to look like 767s and preplanted firecrackers into the WTC central structure, while also sending telepathic waves to the hundreds of thousands of people watching from the ground to make them believe that they saw and heard planes smash into the towers.

But seriously, those saudis were financed and trained by Al-Quaeda and not the Saudi government.

a case could be made about bush/deep state with 9/11 so let's skip the histrionics. it's the same tactic often used to dismiss things as conspiracy. gulf of tonkin anyone? those crazy hippies am i right?

you and tua sound as if you guys hand-delivered the CIA report. you guys can't possibly know that for a fact honestly.

remember when the Saudi government threw a fit over the release of the 28 pages, which had to be redacted? yea i wonder why.

[siablo14]

a case could be made about bush/deep state with 9/11 so let's skip the histrionics. it's the same tactic often used to dismiss things as conspiracy. gulf of tonkin anyone? those crazy hippies am i right?

you and tua sound as if you guys hand-delivered the CIA report. you guys can't possibly know that for a fact honestly.

remember when the Saudi government threw a fit over the release of the 28 pages, which had to be redacted? yea i wonder why.

There is a conspiracy thread on here stick to it.

[Vlad_]

After CIA briefing, Republicans say 'no question' Saudi crown prince ordered Khashoggi murder


Following a briefing to senators by CIA director Gina Haspel Tuesday on the murder of Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi leading Republicans told reporters that there was "zero question" that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman ordered the brutal murder.

Senate Foreign Relations Chairman Bob Corker, a Tennessee Republican, said "I have zero question in my mind that the Crown Prince MBS ordered the killing, monitored the killing, knew exactly what was happening. Planned it in advanced. If he was in front of a jury he would be convicted in 30 minutes. Guilty," Corker said.

Corker called the Trump administration's claim that there is no direct evidence of the crown prince's involvement "unacceptable."

South Carolina Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina said, "It's not a smoking gun, it's a smoking saw."

Given those comments, it appeared Haspel's briefing would not help the administration win back support for its military aid to the Saudi-led coalition fighting in Yemen, but the fact that it's limited to a smaller group has angered many senators, including Republican allies of President Trump.

Haspel did not attend a classified briefing last week on Yemen and Saudi Arabia. Instead, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Defense Secretary James Mattis briefed all 100 senators, urging them to vote down a War Powers Resolution that would pull U.S. support to the coalition, which is powered by the Saudis and the United Arab Emirates and fighting an alliance led by Iranian-aligned Houthi rebels in Yemen. Pompeo and Mattis said U.S. support for that war was vital for national security and they denied that there was any "direct" evidence that the Crown Prince was involved in Khashoggi's killing.

Senators were furious that Haspel did not show, blaming the White House for blocking her. Hours after that briefing, unhappy with the administration's lack of answers and unwavering support for the Saudis despite the murder of Khashoggi, a majority of senators voted to advance that Yemen resolution.

Now, before it comes up for a vote to pass it, the administration dispatched Haspel to provide answers to the Republican chairmen and top Democrats on key national security panels -- the Senate's Armed Services, Foreign Relations, and Intelligence Committees and the Foreign Operations Subcommittee of the Appropriations Committee.

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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/cia-...ry?id=59598135

[Stebs]

If the Saudi government is behind this, and more specifically who in the government, then we can talk about what the consequences should be. B if that's the case, then yes of course something must be done. But he is a permanent resident, not a US citizen, so let's see how this affects the severity.

This man was not a U.S. citizen as was not killed on U.S. soil, we are told he was killed in Turkey so Turkey should dish out the consequences.

Stay out of it and do business as usual, let The Washington Post put the squeeze on the Saudi's.