Why Are People In The U.S. Are Against Universal Healthcare?

[Fists_of_Fury]

What if they get jobs and those jobs don't pay enough to cover said expenses?

Learn to budget better and/or get a better job. Maybe go to a vocational school.

[Hype job]

Learn to budget better and/or get a better job. Maybe go to a vocational school.

There are a finite number of jobs, not everyone can work in well paying fields.

Even if hypothetically all those poor people gained skills to work in well paid jobs, the value of said jobs would decline due to the laws of supply and demand.

[man down]

If other first world countries can afford it why can't America?

We clean up the world's messes. How many trillion did the mid east cost us? How much more do we pay NATO?
We have troops protecting other countries. How much do we charge them for that? We're the world's Police. While I don't agree with it that's the way it is.
What's our population compared to theirs? More people more issues more spending.

[Hype job]

We clean up the world's messes. How many trillion did the mid east cost us? How much more do we pay NATO?
We have troops protecting other countries. How much do we charge them for that? We're the world's Police. While I don't agree with it that's the way it is.
What's our population compared to theirs? More people more issues more spending.

That's why Lords was (rightly imo) suggesting cuts in military spending to make way for more useful things like free college/healthcare.

Y'all chose to waste money fighting pointless wars in the middle east that most would prefer to see spent on more useful thinks like the aforementioned (education healthcare etc).

[Dr.Cool]

Because we are far and away the world's #1 powerhouse in medical research. Part of what keeps our medical research so cutting edge is our privatized system. Without the pharmaceutical industry being a competitive, for profit business, there is less pressure and competition to continuously advance medicine. It also makes it a more lucrative field here, drawing the most talented doctors and scientists from around the world to assist in that advancement. If we go to a single payer system (which I'm actually not entirely opposed to), nurses wages would go to sh**, doctors wages would get significantly lower, and the overall quality of care would be decreased as hospitals would no longer be in direct competition with each other.

That is simply not true. Universal health care would not harm pharmaceutical research at all. What makes medical research is the patents, where no one can make generics for 10 years. That would still be the case.

Nurse and physician wages would not fall, in fact it would increase it, as it would drive the demand up.

As for competition, again, universal health care would obviously INCREASE competition. More people would need hospital services, and thus, if anything, it would increase the number of hospitals.

Literally, every argument you made is actually the very arguments for universal health care. If you want nurses and physicians wages to be higher, if you want more competition, universal health care would definitely do that. And it would allow more people to be able to afford medications, which if we keep our patent laws, would be an incentive for even more medical research by the pharmaceutical companies.

[man down]

That's why Lords was (rightly imo) suggesting cuts in military spending to make way for more useful things like free college/healthcare.

Y'all chose to waste money fighting pointless wars in the middle east that most would prefer to see spent on more useful thinks like the aforementioned (education healthcare etc).

Lol cmon this POTUS cant even try and reduce the cost of planes without Libs getting pissed.

Hes reducing the workforce in DC also and they're mad about that. Hes reducing departments and combining others and they're mad about that.

Its a no win.

[man down]

That is simply not true. Universal health care would not harm pharmaceutical research at all. What makes medical research is the patents, where no one can make generics for 10 years. That would still be the case.

Nurse and physician wages would not fall, in fact it would increase it, as it would drive the demand up.

As for competition, again, universal health care would obviously INCREASE competition. More people would need hospital services, and thus, if anything, it would increase the number of hospitals.

Literally, every argument you made is actually the very arguments for universal health care. If you want nurses and physicians wages to be higher, if you want more competition, universal health care would definitely do that. And it would allow more people to be able to afford medications, which if we keep our patent laws, would be an incentive for even more medical research by the pharmaceutical companies.

We dont have enough doctors or nurses to stuff said hospitals as it is now.

[E10Rifle]

We dont have enough doctors or nurses to stuff said hospitals as it is now.

Perhaps you should make studying less costly do more people could afford to be trained up? That, or increase immigration to cover the shortfall.

[man down]

Perhaps you should make studying less costly do more people could afford to be trained up? That, or increase immigration to cover the shortfall.

LOL this has been going on for years it has zero to do with immigration.


Cost isn't the issue. They will have high paying jobs straight away. Even if that were the issue, we need them like yesterday. Your proposing free healthcare asap right?
School takes years.
So if we are already short what do you think would happen if we had free healthcare?

[TonyGe]

Top 10 salaries for Doctors by country.

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