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  • This is one hell of a thread.

    Nothing more hilarious than uneducated religious types trying to use science as an argument.

    Anyway.

    Play on.

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    • Originally posted by maracho View Post
      Yes, “real” science is “our” argument but your articles below are full of faithbased lingo



      Your New York Times article indicates intelligent design by God is scientific while evolutionism is faith based pseudoscience, paraphrased for context :

      “As improbable as it might seem, our ancestors a billion years ago probably were a lot like Capsaspora…..From single-celled ancestors, they evolved into a riot of complexity and diversity. An estimated seven million species of animals live on earth today,…. The intermediate species that might show how that transition took place have become extinct….“We’re just missing the intervening steps,”…. Now scientists are trying to figure out how a single-celled organism like Capsaspora or choanoflagellates became a multicellular animal. Fortunately, they can get some hints from other cases in which microbes made the same transition. Plants and fungi evolved from single-celled ancestors, as well as dozens of other less familiar lineages, from brown algae seaweed to slime molds. Primitive multicellularity may have been fairly easy to evolve…..they found a gene in Capsaspora that’s nearly identical to the animal gene brachyury. Dr. Ruiz-Trillo and his colleagues have no idea what Capsaspora is doing with a brachyury gene. They’re now doing experiments to find out; in the meantime, Dr. Ruiz-Trillo speculates that single-celled relatives of animals use the brachyury gene, along with other transcription factors, to switch genes on for other tasks….Studies by other scientists point to the same conclusion: a lot of the genes once thought to be unique to the animal kingdom were present in the single-celled ancestors of animals. “The origin of animals depended on genes that were already in place[yes, preexisting blueprints by God],” Dr. King said. In the transition to full-blown animals, Dr. King argues, these genes were co-opted for controlling a multicellular body. .



      This article likewise indicates intelligent design by God is scientific while evolutionism is faith based pseudoscience, as paraphrased for context:

      “we have a number of features in common with all the organisms placed in the animal kingdom, and these common features indicate that we have a shared evolutionary history [This actually indicates that they share the same intelligent designer using intact non-evolving genes]…. Compared to prokaryotic organisms such as bacteria, plants and animals have a relatively recent evolutionary origin. DNA evidence suggests that the first eukaryotes evolved from prokaryotes,….Between 620 and 550 million years ago (during the Vendian Period) relatively large, complex, soft-bodied multicellular animals appear in the fossil record for the first time… The large variety of Ediacaran animals is significant, as it suggests there must have been a lengthy period of evolution prior to their first appearance in the fossil record….

      Charles Darwin once said " We do not know the ancestors of the Vendian faunas well, and like the Cambrian biota it appeared suddenly in a "complete state" . This is why top evolution gurus Gould and Eldridge came up with their theory of punctuated equilibrium to explain the utter lack of intermediates in the fossil record. Scientists usually label fossil layers according to geologic eras based on index fossils but they should be labeling them as eco zones. For instance the Cambrian is a seafloor zone that always contains seafloor critters.



      This article likewise indicates intelligent design by God is scientific while evolutionism is faith based pseudoscience, as paraphrased for context:

      “ the era called the Cambrian Explosion, which produced the first fossils of almost all major categories of animals living today. [this explosion of life indicates sudden creation] "An increase in land plant abundance may have occurred at the time just before the period known as the Cambrian Explosion, when the next Snowball Earth period failed to occur because temperatures did not get quite cold enough," Hedges says. "The plants conceivably boosted oxygen levels in the atmosphere high enough for animals to develop skeletons, grow larger, and diversify."..Lichens are believed to have been the first fungi to team up with photosynthesizing organisms like cyanobacteria and green algae."


      Not sure where you’re going with this one but the universe is a finely tuned machine that only God could make
      You sound like a brainwashed cult member. Instead of admitting the truth, you try and turn it around and say that science is faith based, when you know religion is the one based on faith. You're given proof and your only response is God made it, presenting no credible evidence of your own, except for the bible and people being revived by doctors in a hospital.

      If you wanna go on believing people once existed that had magical powers and that a supernatural being watches over you and decides your fate, so be it. Continue to live in denial.

      You've got your version, I've got the truth.

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      • Originally posted by Anthony342 View Post
        You sound like a brainwashed cult member. Instead of admitting the truth, you try and turn it around and say that science is faith based, when you know religion is the one based on faith. You're given proof and your only response is God made it, presenting no credible evidence of your own, except for the bible and people being revived by doctors in a hospital.

        If you wanna go on believing people once existed that had magical powers and that a supernatural being watches over you and decides your fate, so be it. Continue to live in denial.

        You've got your version, I've got the truth.
        Religious people don't care about truth.

        Here is the bald reality - I can't think of too many more stark examples than this (which actually happened):



        On the one hand we have Bill Nye, who wants to know what the truth is, and will believe what the evidence demonstrates to be the truth.

        On the other hand we have Ken Ham, who has no desire to know what the truth is, and will refuse to even question his own belief system.

        Religious people simply do not give a single simple damn about the truth. It's just too hard for them.

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        • Originally posted by Lomasexual View Post
          Religious people don't care about truth.

          Here is the bald reality - I can't think of too many more stark examples than this (which actually happened):



          On the one hand we have Bill Nye, who wants to know what the truth is, and will believe what the evidence demonstrates to be the truth.

          On the other hand we have Ken Ham, who has no desire to know what the truth is, and will refuse to even question his own belief system.

          Religious people simply do not give a single simple damn about the truth. It's just too hard for them.
          Yep. Reminds me of this cartoon.



          And it was also used in this audio clip:

          Last edited by Anthony342; 07-14-2018, 06:40 AM.

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            • Originally posted by Lomasexual View Post
              Religious people don't care about truth.

              Here is the bald reality - I can't think of too many more stark examples than this (which actually happened):



              On the one hand we have Bill Nye, who wants to know what the truth is, and will believe what the evidence demonstrates to be the truth.

              On the other hand we have Ken Ham, who has no desire to know what the truth is, and will refuse to even question his own belief system.

              Religious people simply do not give a single simple damn about the truth. It's just too hard for them.
              Scientists will tell you there are no differences between racial groups other than skin color when obviously there are. That's because the education system is run by a certain group of people who have a certain agenda.



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              • Originally posted by Dr.Cool View Post
                Actually plants and animals and the finally tuned universe proves evolution is real.

                If evolution wasn't real, farmers would use the same pesticides and herbicides they did 100 years ago. They don't because the insects and bugs have evolved to be resistant to these chemicals. Same thing with diseases, like super gonorrhea. They have evolved to become immune to antibiotics. Living things evolve. There is no doubt about that.

                It is impossible to know if a God or Gods created everything or if it all just happened. We can't know if God created the Earth or if the Big Bang, some luck, billions of years, and evolution did.

                But we do know evolution is real. Look at the different breeds of dogs. Dogs have been bred for different reasons and evolved to become better at the tasks they were used for. Look at bacteria. Look at insects. Look at the different colors of skin. White skin, suffers damage from too much exposure to the sun, but allows people to get more vitamin D from the sun. This would naturally happen in colder climates with less sun. Black skin protects against harmful uv rays from the sun, but only gets low amounts of vitamin D from the sun. This would explain why black people were found in tropical, sunny climates and whites are found in colder climates.

                To argue that evolution isn't real is beyond ******ed. Again, one can argue how the Universe began, there are different theories, none of which can be proven or disproven. But evolution is real. There is no doubt about that.
                To the contrary, that's not random accidents or turning one kind of critter into another kind but rather intelligently designed adaptational survival mechanisms that help them deal with a fallen world and actually fight the worlds mutagens and fight drastic invasive change in order to keep the balance of nature . For instance, the dogs always remain dogs and the people remain people and not apes turning into people..lol

                The Theory of Evolution states that a mutation randomly occurs at just the right time and niches and just happens to produce an environmental advantage over its predecessors and thus replacing them, which is why nazi pseudoscience calls it "the origins of a species and favored races".

                This is simply not the case with your examples. In fact, just the opposite of what you suggest occurs. For example, a pre-existing ancestral phenotype is selected only after a critter experiences stressful environmental stimuli and it doesnt cause violent take over as Darwin and his followers pretend
                Last edited by maracho; 07-14-2018, 08:24 AM.

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                • Originally posted by Xoo View Post
                  Scientists will tell you there are no differences between racial groups other than skin color when obviously there are. That's because the education system is run by a certain group of people who have a certain agenda.
                  Plenty of ideologues pretend to be applying scientific principles when they are just trying to rationalise or support their existing beliefs.

                  Just look at the clowns who think that science supports their religious beliefs.

                  The thing to remember - when I say that no religious person cares about the truth, this does not automatically mean that people without religion do. It just means that they are the group who might.

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                  • Originally posted by Lomasexual View Post
                    Plenty of ideologues pretend to be applying scientific principles when they are just trying to rationalise or support their existing beliefs.

                    Just look at the clowns who think that science supports their religious beliefs.

                    The thing to remember - when I say that no religious person cares about the truth, this does not automatically mean that people without religion do. It just means that they are the group who might.
                    Which is why evolutionism is always used by the Hitlereque

                    On the other hand, 99.9% of all great scientists, discoverers, boxers, etc have been Christian's inspired by the Holy Spirit and that's pretty empirical
                    Last edited by maracho; 07-14-2018, 08:52 AM.

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                    • Originally posted by Lomasexual View Post
                      Plenty of ideologues pretend to be applying scientific principles when they are just trying to rationalise or support their existing beliefs.

                      Just look at the clowns who think that science supports their religious beliefs.

                      The thing to remember - when I say that no religious person cares about the truth,
                      Really? Not one? There isn't even one person who you would describe as religious who cares about the truth?

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