LeBron is so far ahead of every player all-time that its not even an argument anymore

[baya]

So, what would those Piston, Celtic, and Knick teams in the 80s done to LeBron and a weak squad? Those whole teams are basically in the Hall. Different eras. Thats like saying AJ is better than Ali.

LeBron is like Peyton Manning. Got a whole bunch of stats and regular season wins, but when it counts, and the money's on the line, he seems to choke.

but he has 3 rings. losing is a part of life, ask 2016 steph curry.

[GGG Gloveking]

but he has 3 rings. losing is a part of life, ask 2016 steph curry.

Yes it is, and so is winning, which is the parameter we should be looking at. Who has the most, and most meaningful wins. MJ has 6 rings and no Final losses, LeBron is 3-6 or 3-7 or whatever. This is like saying a 25-50 fighter with less belts is better than Floyd.

[baya]

Yes it is, and so is winning, which is the parameter we should be looking at. Who has the most, and most meaningful wins. MJ has 6 rings and no Final losses, LeBron is 3-6 or 3-7 or whatever. This is like saying a 25-50 fighter with less belts is better than Floyd.

it's not like that ... a team sport with 4 other dudes on the floor with you can't be compared to boxing, too many external variables.

what can't be disputed here is what lebron has been able to do by himself, unlike mj who could do NATHAN before the arrival of scottie.

[$tate of Mind]

it's not like that ... a team sport with 4 other dudes on the floor with you can't be compared to boxing, too many external variables.

what can't be disputed here is what lebron has been able to do by himself, unlike mj who could do NATHAN before the arrival of scottie.

See stupid statements like this just demonstrate the insanity of LeBron stans. LeBron has never won jack **** without hall of fame teammates. Getting to the Finals and losing doesn't mean ****. When has LeBron won a ring without Kyrie, Wade, Love, Bosh, etc? All of those guys are likely HOF players but LeBron "won by himself"? Lmao GTFO. On that first Bulls 3 peat team only Scottie was a star besides Jordan. Horace Grant was the 3rd best player on that team and he wasn't an all star caliber player.

[$tate of Mind]

Why does LeBron get a pass for not playing any defense? There are 2 sides of the court. When did Jordan refuse to compete defensively?

[extracurRICular]

Undeniable at this point.

[AllBoxingAD]

Why does LeBron get a pass for not playing any defense? There are 2 sides of the court. When did Jordan refuse to compete defensively?

He gets a pass because of the number of minutes he's played in his career and because of the load he needs to carry offensively. Both of which are unprecedented at his age in history.

Jordan didnt play as long as Lebron did.

Magic's gotten a pass for not playing any defense since his first dribble as a rookie.

[DreamerUSA]

Who is the better offensive player? Jordan

Who is the better defensive player? Jordan

Who has more championships? Jordan

Who has more MVPs? Jordan

Basically the only thing Lebron has on MJ is that you can make the case that he is a better passer.

Everything Jordan accomplished was also done while giving up two years of his prime and another 3 years where even an old Jordan would of been capable of 24 to 25 points a game.

Lebron is a great player, an absolute monster, but unless he wins a couple more championship, all the regular season numbers aren't going to mean much when you stack him up to Jordan. The goal is rings, not stats.

[-Swizzy-]

See stupid statements like this just demonstrate the insanity of LeBron stans. LeBron has never won jack **** without hall of fame teammates. Getting to the Finals and losing doesn't mean ****. When has LeBron won a ring without Kyrie, Wade, Love, Bosh, etc? All of those guys are likely HOF players but LeBron "won by himself"? Lmao GTFO. On that first Bulls 3 peat team only Scottie was a star besides Jordan. Horace Grant was the 3rd best player on that team and he wasn't an all star caliber player.

LMAO Ok. You just ended yourself.

Grant was considered the best defensive PF in the NBA and the 3rd best PF after Malone and Barkley.

This is typical Jordan stan/Lebron hater knowledge and bias.

You ignore reality and just cherry pick your own irrelevant stats.

[$tate of Mind]

He gets a pass because of the number of minutes he's played in his career and because of the load he needs to carry offensively. Both of which are unprecedented at his age in history.

Jordan didnt play as long as Lebron did.

Magic's gotten a pass for not playing any defense since his first dribble as a rookie.

Typical, more excuses...if you can go hard on offense you can do the same on defense. Playing 0 defense doesn't help your team win. I'm sure LeBron getting on his teammates about playing defense while he plays no defense goes over well. As the best player on your team what kind of example does playing 0 defense set? LeBron is a primary reason for why the Lakers are horrendous defensively.