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  • #41
    Originally posted by Beercules View Post
    Vietnam was wrong
    Why? Cause we lost?

    Everyone says Vietnam was wrong just because we lost.

    Vietnam was two countries.

    The north was supporting viet cong who was trying to take over the south.

    Same shiet at korean war, Persian Gulf 1, and many other conflicts we got involved in.

    Vietnam was run wrong.

    Whether the war was wrong, we'll that depends on your pov. If Vietnam was wrong then you have to be consistent with all our other wars.

    The us is a global superpower. It has to get involved in wars thru out the world. That's just how it is.

    Same with the Brits and French and Spanish empires. Same with the romans, persians, macedonian, mongol empires.

    It's how it works.

    If you don't want to get involved in any wars, you can, if you are a small state with little influence. But then peace is not guaranteed because someone will probably start a war with you.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Beercules View Post
      Warren commission?

      Don't listen to that because it is all fiction. House Committee on Assasination's is what you need to look into​.


      Confirmed there was more than one shooter, and that's from the federal government.
      Why did they even need a second shooter?

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
        Why did they even need a second shooter?
        Well I think there was 3. Triangulation of fire.

        There was probably a shooter on the Dal Tex building, one on the grassy knoll and there was a shooter in the book depository but it wasn't Oswald

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
          Why? Cause we lost?

          Everyone says Vietnam was wrong just because we lost.

          Vietnam was two countries.

          The north was supporting viet cong who was trying to take over the south.

          Same shiet at korean war, Persian Gulf 1, and many other conflicts we got involved in.

          Vietnam was run wrong.

          Whether the war was wrong, we'll that depends on your pov. If Vietnam was wrong then you have to be consistent with all our other wars.

          The us is a global superpower. It has to get involved in wars thru out the world. That's just how it is.

          Same with the Brits and French and Spanish empires. Same with the romans, persians, macedonian, mongol empires.

          It's how it works.

          If you don't want to get involved in any wars, you can, if you are a small state with little influence. But then peace is not guaranteed because someone will probably start a war with you.

          Gulf of Tonkin was a false flag. We didn't need to be in Vietnam and Kennedy knew that.


          We needed to keep the advisors, not a full invasion for nearly a decade. It really started in 1965 but we were there for 3 years prior

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          • #45
            Originally posted by GGG Gloveking View Post
            Make up your mind sun space. Is the FBI afraid of Trump going to war with Russia, or are they trying to try him for treason for being tied to Russia, like you said in your other thread? Is Russia Trumps enemy, or friend?
            Make up my mind? I was being sarcastic; my point being that Trump's ties to Russia are currently in the process of investigation by the FBI. This is no "conspiracy theory." It's a case.

            I've never said that the FBI is afraid of Trump going to war with Russia; where did you read that, lol?

            My guess is that Russia used Trump as a pawn to further its own interests/power. Seeing a clear opening, Russia first compromised Trump through both bribery and "kompromat," and then went on to launch a massive cyber-warfare campaign, targeting ordinary Americans with the goal of shifting public opinion by sowing confusion as to reality. They used/use a combination of bots and actual people (trolls) in social media as their methodology for spreading disinformation sources.

            The problem Russia has now is that it's backfiring. The US, although somewhat caught off guard, had mechanisms in place that traced a lot of this as it occurred, such as the dossier (for which in response Putin has already killed quite a few people.)

            No one was going to simply stand by, so there were official investigations taking place, too, and that's what ultimately led to the unveiling by the FBI of plausible evidence concerning treason, pending conclusion of said investigation(s).

            In the short run, Russia benefits from having the US on its side, but what happens now? They've put a man in there whose presidency will be/is a train wreck; they missed the big picture. Once power shifts again, the US will be looking to make a statement, at a "time of our choosing," as they like to say.

            Putin is an intelligent man, and the greatest mob boss in Russia's history, but Obama is something else.

            I don't see Trump/Putin feeling like this plot was worth it, in the end. Putin will be made to suffer consequences, and Trump, well...The Trump name will be destroyed after this presidency is done with. Mark my words. That silly man hasn't even realized the fire he's played with.

            Just my hunch...
            Last edited by TheLennox; 03-26-2017, 04:34 PM.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Beercules View Post
              Well I think there was 3. Triangulation of fire.

              There was probably a shooter on the Dal Tex building, one on the grassy knoll and there was a shooter in the book depository but it wasn't Oswald
              Hold on now. The link you share said it is highly likely it was Oswald shooting from the library.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by siablo14 View Post
                Hold on now. The link you share said it is highly likely it was Oswald shooting from the library.
                He passed the paraffin test. Oswald was a crappy shot anyway.


                It's literally impossible to get off 3 rounds in a couple seconds with a bolt action rifle.

                You have a lot of reading to do

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                • #48
                  The experts from the US Army and the FBI who had tested the rifle discovered that it was actually not usable in its original state:

                  Shims had to be applied to the telescopic sight before the rifle could be aimed.

                  Even after the telescopic sight had been repaired, it proved unreliable and inaccurate.

                  The condition of both the bolt and the trigger pull meant that the rifle could not be aimed accurately.
                  “They [the US Army marksmen] could not sight the weapon in using the telescope, and no attempt was made to sight it in using the iron sight. We did adjust the telescopic sight by the addition of two shims, one which tended to adjust the azimuth, and one which adjusted an elevation”: Warren Commission Hearings, vol.3, p.443.

                  http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.h...&relPageId=451

                  According to the FBI’s firearms specialist, “Every time we changed the adjusting screws to move the crosshairs in the telescopic sight in one direction it also affected the movement of the impact or the point of impact in the other direction. … We fired several shots and found that the shots were not all landing in the same place, but were gradually moving away from the point of impact.”: Warren Commission Hearings, vol.3, p.405.

                  http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.h...#relPageId=413

                  Problems with the bolt and the trigger mechanism: “There were several comments made — particularly with respect to the amount of effort required to open the bolt. … There was also comment made about the trigger pull … in the first stage the trigger is relatively free, and it suddenly required a greater pull to actually fire the weapon.”: Warren Commission Hearings, vol.3, p.449.

                  http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.h...&relPageId=455

                  The JFK Assassination is a deep deep Rabbit Hole if you choose to go down it.

                  I have read dozens of Books on the Subject ( Probably about 70-30 in Favour of the Conspiracy Against it ) and I still find out things I never knew to this day. I've also had my mind completely changed on certain aspects numerous times.

                  No one can ever tell you Exactly what happened, but it was a Conspiracy.

                  A lone Nut can't do what Oswald was supposed to have done.

                  If anyone wants some suggested reading material so they can make up their own minds:

                  Conspiratorial ( Not a term I like using ) View:

                  Crossfire
                  Destiny Betrayed
                  Rush To Judgement
                  JFK and the Unspeakable ( My Avatar )
                  The Devil's Chessboard
                  Best Evidence

                  Non-Conspiratorial View:

                  Reclaiming History
                  Case Closed
                  False Witness

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                  • #49
                    Have any of you guys ever been to the building in Dallas where Oswald supposedly shot Kennedy? Well I have many times.

                    I'm telling you there's no way the guy could have pulled off those shots with a single load rifle.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Beercules View Post
                      Gulf of Tonkin was a false flag. We didn't need to be in Vietnam and Kennedy knew that.


                      We needed to keep the advisors, not a full invasion for nearly a decade. It really started in 1965 but we were there for 3 years prior
                      Invade who?

                      South vietnam was a us ally and protected thru seato (se asian version of nato), we didn't invade them.

                      OK no more Vietnam War talk with you.



                      Lol the jfk legacy

                      Bullshiet upon hopes upon fantasy

                      Jfk thought we'd win by 1965 not withdraw by 1965

                      He thought the vc/nba would be defeated by then

                      That's where that stupid fantasy came from that he was gonna withdraw troops in 1965



                      Stupid democrat, liberalso have spun it as he was gonna end the war

                      Yeah if we had won by 1965, we would have left.

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