OFFICIAL: Donald Trump thread.

[bigjavi973]

funny how he says it was done on the presidents watch etc....

was he saying the same when all those school shootings happened during obama's campaign?

[bigjavi973]

Simple question, how many of your retorts consist of cartoons?

thats cuz he has nothing factual to add.....

all of his opinions can be quickly shut down with some easy fact checking.... so thats why he never has an actual dialogue with anyone at all.... just memes away


but what the thing is that MOST of them are like that when you watch any videos of anyone trying to get a conversation with leftist people they all do the same thing.

[1bad65]

This fat kid posting from his momma's basement actually believes he understands finance!

Tell us more about Trump wanting to borrow money off your dad, you utter clown lol.

Wait, what?!?!


I know SafeSpace tells some whoppers, like when he beat up Miguel Cotto's cousin, but this is getting sad.

Poor kid needs to get out the basement and get a girlfriend and have some fun.

It's kinda sad watching a kid waste his youthful years on Internet nonsense like this.

[bigjavi973]

Prime example

explain how they are terroristic in nature.....

[denium]

Wait, what?!?!


I know SafeSpace tells some whoppers, like when he beat up Miguel Cotto's cousin, but this is getting sad.

Poor kid needs to get out the basement and get a girlfriend and have some fun.

It's kinda sad watching a kid waste his youthful years on Internet nonsense like this.

Yeah, apparently Trump tried to borrow money off his dad, and his best friends dad invented the world's most efficient jet engine.

Complete fantasist, and very possibly, mentally ill.

[bigjavi973]

thats actually a funny meme from senorita bernie.....

trump is the one that moved the embassy to Jerusalem something that many presidents failed to do.

there is no PROOF about those nazis that marched and trump.... when he said fine people he even said that about those antifa idiots too

theres ZERO proof about russians messing with the election... there is proof however of the DNC rigging its own side so that bernie sanders would lose and clinton would win

hes the only president to safely calm down kim jong un of north korea and stop his nuclear program

the concentration camps one is funny

doesnt even fall in line with the definition of it:

Persons are placed in such camps often on the basis of identification with a particular ethnic or political group rather than as individuals and without benefit either of indictment or fair trial. (they get BOTH here in the US so it is NOT a concentration camp)

you're either a nationalist or a globalist....

"Nationalism is a political, social, and economic system characterized by the promotion of the interests of a particular nation, especially with the aim of gaining and maintaining sovereignty (self-governance) over the homeland. The political ideology of nationalism holds that a nation should govern itself, free from outside interference and is linked to the concept of self-determination."

so they cant really cry saying trump is a nationalist and also at the same time say that russia helped trump.... it just doesnt make any common sense at all.

the guy that sent bombs has PRIOR HISTORY or threatening others with explosives, has a criminal history and acts out according to people who knew him...

oh and he delivered all those bombs across many states, all within a few hours of each other. Oh and some didnt have posted markings from the usps either....

trump stated that we cant be civil and that if they are down kicking while theyre down.... oh wait those were democrat words....

[bigjavi973]

So in that scenario buffet paid in one year as much tax as what the 250k guy would pay in 370 years, but that still isn’t enough?

Why not just tax Buffet 90$ million and leave him with $10 million. After all, having $10 million after tax is still much better than having $150k after tax.

While we’re at it, let’s just tax Buffet $99 million, because $1 million is still much better after tax than $150k.

heres a video about a "1%" arguing his point about how he already pays close to 50% in taxes:

[bigjavi973]

Don’t know what he makes.

Let’s say he makes 100 million. He pays 37 million is taxes as opposed to the 39.5 he would have paid but for trump. So he says 2.5 million is this senerio.

but aside from that. Which do you think hurts more? Being left with 150k after taxes or 63 million?

I assure you the man(or woman) payingthe 100k I going to feel it and impact the family significantly. Buffet won’t blink. O and btw. He won’t spend thAt 2.5 million he saved on his taxes. It will just go into his portfolio. He already had 60 million to spend...

the guy that has the 63 million is the one who will create the private sector jobs and would be able to open up more than one factory etc...

meanwhile the guy that makes 250k has his own solo company and probably employs his nephew or son to work with him......




id say yea give the tax breaks to the actual people who are setting everyone else up for jobs....

you take that money away.... and they wont have extra money for new employments to be made etc.

[Zpar]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...mmunism-spying


"Donald Trump and his then wife, Ivana, in 1988. Her father provided regular updates on the pair to Czechoslovakia’s Státní bezpečnost.

The communist intelligence service in Prague stepped up its spying campaign against Donald Trump in the late 1980s, targeting him to gain information about the “upper echelons of the US government”, archive files and testimony from former cold war spies reveal.

Czechoslovakia’s Státní bezpečnost (StB) carried out a long-term spying mission against Trump following his marriage in 1977 to his first wife, Ivana Zelníčková. The operation was run out of Zlín, the provincial town in south-west Czechoslovakia where Zelníčková was born and grew up.

Ivana’s father, Miloš Zelníček, gave regular information to the local StB office about his daughter’s visits from the US and on his celebrity son-in-law’s career in New York. Zelníček was classified as a “conspiratorial” informer. His relationship with the StB lasted until the end of the communist regime.

New archive records obtained by the Guardian and the Czech magazine Respekt show the StB’s growing interest in Trump after the 1988 US presidential election, won by George HW Bush. The StB’s first directorate responsible for foreign espionage sought to “deepen” its Trump-related activity.

A former StB official, Vlastimil Daněk – tracked down to the village of Zadní Arnoštov, where he lives in retirement – confirmed the Trump operation. Addressing the matter publicly for the first time, he said: “Trump was of course a very interesting person for us. He was a businessman, he had a lot of contacts, even in US politics.

“We were focusing on him, we knew he was influential. We had information that he wanted to be president in future.”

Daněk said his senior colleagues at the StB’s headquarters in Prague were focused on Trump too. “It wasn’t only us who paid attention to him. The first department of the StB were interested in him. I don’t know if the first directorate shared information on Trump with the KGB. I can’t verify or deny.”

He added: “I don’t want to tell you any more details. It’s a past I would like to forget. I don’t want to have any problems.”

The files do not say if the Soviet Union ordered or shaped the decade-long StB Trump operation. But Czechoslovakian spies routinely shared secrets with KGB colleagues and the Moscow security agency had a large liaison office in Prague. Many StB officers also worked directly for the KGB, known as “the friends”.

In summer 1987, Donald and Ivana Trump visited Moscow and Leningrad, following a personal invitation from the Soviet ambassador in Washington, Yuri Dubinin. The trip was arranged by Intourist, a travel agency that was also an undercover KGB outfit. Soon after returning from Moscow, Trump announced he was thinking of running for president. That presidential bid failed to materialise.

In October 1988, on the eve of the US election, Ivana Trump visited her parents in Zlín, known at the time as Gottwaldov. According to the files she “confidently” predicted Bush’s victory to her father, who in turn passed the tip to local StB officers.

“The outcome of the election confirmed the veracity of this information,” StB field agent Lt Peter Surý wrote, in a document dated 23 January 1989 and marked “secret”.

The prediction came “from the highest echelons of power in the US”. Ivana was “not only a well-heeled US citizen” but moved in “very top political circles”, Surý stated.

Surý listed a number of “action points” that might be taken. They included remaining in “conspiratorial contact” with Zelníček. The StB goal was to gain more information about US foreign policy, politics and economy, plus “the activities of America’s intelligence agencies”.
Marcela Strouhalova, a librarian, manages Communist-era secret police files on Ivana Trump at the Security Service Archive in Prague, Czech Republic.

Surý, who was deputy head of the local StB, still lives in Zlín. “Yes, I wrote that file,” he said, speaking about it publicly for the first time. “Trump was a rich businessman and interesting for us. I didn’t work on him, though. My colleagues did. The first department focused on him. I don’t know details.”

The comments by former StB officers suggest Moscow and Prague were intensely interested in Trump in the late cold war era. Spy agencies in both socialist capitals noted Trump’s growing political ambitions and sought to exploit his in-laws and family ties, using them as a dynamic intelligence channel.

The scale of Soviet Moscow’s spying operation on Trump is unknown. No documents are public. It is unclear when the KGB began a file on the future president. In Prague about 60,000 StB documents were declassified in the mid-1990s, after the collapse of communism. The StB destroyed most records.

However, secret memos written by the KGB chief, Vladimir Kryuchkov, in the mid-1980s reveal that he berated his officers for their failure to cultivate top-level Americans. Kryuchkov circulated a confidential personality questionnaire to KGB heads of station abroad, setting out the qualities wanted from a potential asset.

According to instructions leaked to British intelligence by the KGB defector Oleg Gordievsky, they included corruption, vanity, narcissism, marital infidelity and poor analytical skills. The KGB should focus on personalities who were upwardly mobile in business and politics, especially Americans, the document said."

[HOUDINI563]

I’ve been in dozens of business meetings where expansion and new product development were the topics. Never....NEVER has anyone used tax rate as a reason not to move forward. A good project. A new idea for a product. Expansion of facilities is a good deal or it’s not. There are times where even without profit these deals are earnestly approved. Anyone want to venture a guess as to why?