Seems like a very intelligent person
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do you agree with this dude about drug addicts?
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i've known a lot of addicts and i guess teetered on the brink myself, and basically i have learned that "junkie" is not a valid descriptive term; all sorts of people become dependent on all sorts of substances for all sorts of reasons. it's unhelpful and dehumanising to just lump all these people in together.
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Originally posted by Weebler I View PostPain is part of life, you're never going to cure everyone's pain so asking "why the pain" is ultimately pointless.
The real point is educating people not to rush to drugs and alcohol every time they're having a tough time but to exercise or do something productive (and unharmful).
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Originally posted by -jose- View Postplease
we all get stressed we all go thru pain but only the weak choose this route, fcuk out of here with that **** trying to play the victim
Who are you again?
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Originally posted by BodiesInFlight View PostSo you're telling a world recognised physician and addiction specialist that his work and findings are wrong.
Who are you again?
I'm -jose- by the way a well recognize poster and specialist in oxygen
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Originally posted by -jose- View Postplease
we all get stressed we all go thru pain but only the weak choose this route, fcuk out of here with that **** trying to play the victim
Often the cycle of addiction starts with parents who suffer from an addiction to drugs, children are impressionable and when stuck in poverty with little access to decent education the concept of drugs is appealing. I think there is a huge difference between drug addiction that you might see in celebrities and an addiction that has hooked a young man/woman with little point of reference, little education and no money.
There is also a difference in mindset between someone who uses drugs recreationally and someone who has to take them. Treating them like criminals especially for things like possession is ridiculous because for people who are addicted prison or the justice system is not a deterrent in the slightest. Absolutely people who deal drugs should be treated like criminals they are part of the source of the problem but if you want to get drug users away from committing crimes treating them for addiction is far more effective than banging them in in prison for a few months spending tax money and letting them out again only to recommit (this is a proven fact that abstinence based treatment is far more effective in preventing addiction based crime rather than prison).
'Treating the pain' is a different way to put it rather look at it like this. What is the most effective way to permanently reduce drug related crime ensure that people who are addicted to drugs have the education, capacity and potential treatment to get off the addiction.
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Things like safe injections sites and agencies providing drugs like heroin to addicts reduce the death, disease and crime associated with addiction. There is huge opposition to such initiatives but they work. It would be an inexpensive way of reducing the human misery caused by addiction, but we never explore it because it offends the sensibilities of what a certain class of vocal voters deems fairness.
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People who turn to drugs don't get my sympathy, I don't drink, do not smoke or take any drugs.
Every person on this forum has suffered from pain or will suffer from it eventually, we all have our own battles. People who turn to drugs are in most cases to blame on themselves, you cannot expect remorse for continuously doing something which you know is wrong.
Doing something once, and regretting it is a mistake, doing it twice is foolish, anymore and your making a choice.
I suffered through pain and hurt, just like anyone, be it relationships, grievance or whatever else. I chose to continue my life the way I did before it, I am still here today trying to get by no matter how many obstacles I must overcome.
No one here is perfect and I understand some people were raised up in them circumstances, they have genuine excuses, but for someone who had a perfectly healthy straight forward life to become an addict be it whatever reason? No thanks you deserve what you get.
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Originally posted by Badzi87 View PostPeople who turn to drugs don't get my sympathy, I don't drink, do not smoke or take any drugs.
Every person on this forum has suffered from pain or will suffer from it eventually, we all have our own battles. People who turn to drugs are in most cases to blame on themselves, you cannot expect remorse for continuously doing something which you know is wrong.
Doing something once, and regretting it is a mistake, doing it twice is foolish, anymore and your making a choice.
I suffered through pain and hurt, just like anyone, be it relationships, grievance or whatever else. I chose to continue my life the way I did before it, I am still here today trying to get by no matter how many obstacles I must overcome.
No one here is perfect and I understand some people were raised up in them circumstances, they have genuine excuses, but for someone who had a perfectly healthy straight forward life to become an addict be it whatever reason? No thanks you deserve what you get.
Its difficult to judge whose life can lead to drug addiction. And i dont think anyone can say some people have good excuses but others dont, so f.uck'em!
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