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Originally posted by Dick Senormous
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No, Israel has not blocked them from existing there. The British gave the land to both of them and after Israel accepted this and the Muslims refused it and started fighting, it was split up. The Palestinian people still cannot accept to share a land with people who aren't Muslims and continue to threaten and shoot rockets towards Israel.
Holy ****, it's like trying to educate a child in school. You are very short sighted and misguided. You actually think its about 'Religion' still? You still believe this bull****??
For starters, It's not do with 'Religion'. The issue is with people STEALING land here and occupying land that is not rightfully there's.. I'm tired of hearing people scream about religion in the Israel - Palestine conflict. It's dated. We are talking about the occupation of LAND. Not Religion. Have you ever considered this - Isn't it that the Jewish people use religion as a means to perhaps justify their occupation of the land? Have you ever considered that?
Unfortunately, Israel does not take any **** and shoots back, killing much more people many of whom are civilians. Sorry, but that tends to happen when the people who they are targeting use the civilians as human shields.
Speaking about human shields, Israel have been guilty of doing the same in the past
"In several cases Israeli soldiers also used civilians, including children, as ***8220;human shields***8221;, endangering their lives by forcing them to remain in or near houses which they took over and used as military positions. Some were forced to carry out dangerous tasks such as inspecting properties or objects suspected of being booby-trapped. Soldiers also took position and launched attacks from and around inhabited houses, exposing local residents to the danger of attacks or of being caught in the crossfire. "
"However, contrary to repeated allegations by Israeli officials of the use of ***8220;human shields***8221;, Amnesty International found no evidence that Hamas or other Palestinian fighters directed the movement of civilians to shield military objectives from attacks. It found no evidence that Hamas or other armed groups forced residents to stay in or around buildings used by fighters,
nor that fighters prevented residents from leaving buildings or areas which had been commandeered by militants. "
http://www.amnesty.org/ar/library/as...50152009en.pdf
How come no one seems to comment on the cease-fire that Israel was willing to obey and Hamas completely rejected? It has basically been a case of Hamas shoots rockets, Israel shoots back bigger, better rockets and kills more people and then the Pro-Palestians go ape**** and cry about how horrible Israel is, completely disregarding the fact that Hamas brings it upon themselves every time they shoot rockets towards Israel. Hamas knows goddamned well that if they **** with Israel, Israel will strike back much harder and kill much more people but they do it regardless because they know that if they can hide behind enough civilian shields, much of the world will support them because of the mass loss of innocent people's lives.
Ceasefire? They know a ceasefire written by the Egypt regime which is hostile towards that of Hamas regime would never actually happen. Egypt aren't friends with Hamas. You actually think Hamas are going to listen to a regime that is refusing doctors through their boarder to Gaza to come to an agreement? GTFO.
Khaled Meshaal, Hamas leader, lays out terms for ceasefire with Israel, including ending 'siege' of Gaza, freeing Palestinian prisoners and 'stopping aggression'
Hamas will not agree to a ceasefire deal, until Israel ***8220;lifts the siege***8221; on Gaza, the organisation***8217;s political chief has told the Telegraph.
In an exclusive interview, his first since the current conflict in Gaza, Khaled Meshaal has said his organisation will not accept a truce involving only a cessation of fire by both sides, and that any deal should secure long term political and economic gains for Palestinians.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ceasefire.html
Some ceasefire a while ago by Israel..
"The continuing Israeli military blockade of the Gaza Strip exacerbated an already dire humanitarian situation, health and sanitation problems, poverty and malnutrition for the 1.5 million residents. The Israeli military offensive launched in late December brought conditions to the brink of human catastrophe. Even before it began, the local economy was paralysed by the lack of imports and a ban on exports. Shortages of most basic necessities fuelled price increases, causing some 80 per cent of the population to become dependent on international assistance. UN and other aid and humanitarian organizations faced additional restrictions which hindered their ability to provide assistance and services to Gaza***8217;s people and increased their operational costs. UN reconstruction projects to provide housing for families whose homes had been destroyed by the Israeli army in previous years were suspended due to a lack of construction material. Seriously ill patients in need of medical care not available in Gaza and hundreds of students and workers wishing to study or travel to jobs abroad were among those trapped in Gaza by the blockade; only relatively few were allowed to leave the area by the Israeli authorities. Several patients who were denied passage out of Gaza later died."
http://www.amnesty.org/en/region/isr...es/report-2009
Holy ****, it's like trying to educate a child in school. You are very short sighted and misguided. You actually think its about 'Religion' still? You still believe this bull****??
For starters, It's not do with 'Religion'. The issue is with people STEALING land here and occupying land that is not rightfully there's.. I'm tired of hearing people scream about religion in the Israel - Palestine conflict. It's dated. We are talking about the occupation of LAND. Not Religion. Have you ever considered this - Isn't it that the Jewish people use religion as a means to perhaps justify their occupation of the land? Have you ever considered that?Unfortunately, Israel does not take any **** and shoots back, killing much more people many of whom are civilians. Sorry, but that tends to happen when the people who they are targeting use the civilians as human shields.
Speaking about human shields, Israel have been guilty of doing the same in the past
"In several cases Israeli soldiers also used civilians, including children, as ***8220;human shields***8221;, endangering their lives by forcing them to remain in or near houses which they took over and used as military positions. Some were forced to carry out dangerous tasks such as inspecting properties or objects suspected of being booby-trapped. Soldiers also took position and launched attacks from and around inhabited houses, exposing local residents to the danger of attacks or of being caught in the crossfire. "
"However, contrary to repeated allegations by Israeli officials of the use of ***8220;human shields***8221;, Amnesty International found no evidence that Hamas or other Palestinian fighters directed the movement of civilians to shield military objectives from attacks. It found no evidence that Hamas or other armed groups forced residents to stay in or around buildings used by fighters,
nor that fighters prevented residents from leaving buildings or areas which had been commandeered by militants. "
http://www.amnesty.org/ar/library/as...50152009en.pdf
How come no one seems to comment on the cease-fire that Israel was willing to obey and Hamas completely rejected? It has basically been a case of Hamas shoots rockets, Israel shoots back bigger, better rockets and kills more people and then the Pro-Palestians go ape**** and cry about how horrible Israel is, completely disregarding the fact that Hamas brings it upon themselves every time they shoot rockets towards Israel. Hamas knows goddamned well that if they **** with Israel, Israel will strike back much harder and kill much more people but they do it regardless because they know that if they can hide behind enough civilian shields, much of the world will support them because of the mass loss of innocent people's lives.
Ceasefire? They know a ceasefire written by the Egypt regime which is hostile towards that of Hamas regime would never actually happen. Egypt aren't friends with Hamas. You actually think Hamas are going to listen to a regime that is refusing doctors through their boarder to Gaza to come to an agreement? GTFO.
Khaled Meshaal, Hamas leader, lays out terms for ceasefire with Israel, including ending 'siege' of Gaza, freeing Palestinian prisoners and 'stopping aggression'
Hamas will not agree to a ceasefire deal, until Israel ***8220;lifts the siege***8221; on Gaza, the organisation***8217;s political chief has told the Telegraph.
In an exclusive interview, his first since the current conflict in Gaza, Khaled Meshaal has said his organisation will not accept a truce involving only a cessation of fire by both sides, and that any deal should secure long term political and economic gains for Palestinians.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ceasefire.html
Some ceasefire a while ago by Israel..
"The continuing Israeli military blockade of the Gaza Strip exacerbated an already dire humanitarian situation, health and sanitation problems, poverty and malnutrition for the 1.5 million residents. The Israeli military offensive launched in late December brought conditions to the brink of human catastrophe. Even before it began, the local economy was paralysed by the lack of imports and a ban on exports. Shortages of most basic necessities fuelled price increases, causing some 80 per cent of the population to become dependent on international assistance. UN and other aid and humanitarian organizations faced additional restrictions which hindered their ability to provide assistance and services to Gaza***8217;s people and increased their operational costs. UN reconstruction projects to provide housing for families whose homes had been destroyed by the Israeli army in previous years were suspended due to a lack of construction material. Seriously ill patients in need of medical care not available in Gaza and hundreds of students and workers wishing to study or travel to jobs abroad were among those trapped in Gaza by the blockade; only relatively few were allowed to leave the area by the Israeli authorities. Several patients who were denied passage out of Gaza later died."
http://www.amnesty.org/en/region/isr...es/report-2009
Can Israel really declare a war on the Palestinian people, country, city, or strip, or whatever because of what happened? Kidnappings are happening all around the world pal everyday.. 
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