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I just dont get Agnosticism
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Originally posted by Mud View PostThe common broader definition of atheism is a disbelief in a deity. There are degrees of this disbelief.
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Originally posted by Fury View PostHow so. If you don't believe in something you don't believe in it. If you have a degree of disbelief in the existence of god then you are no atheist.
True. I meant degrees of certainty. Some state there is no god as a factual statement, but the vast majority of atheists merely lack a belief.
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Originally posted by Fury View PostThat is agnostic. Atheism is a belief.
Same thing.
The lines are fuzzy between agnosticism and atheism imo. As we see in this thread, people define agnosticism differently. Same with atheism.
For me, agnosticism is stating 'maybe there is a god, maybe there aint'.
Whilst atheism is saying 'i dont believe in any gods'. (of the supernatural universe creating kind....not the Jimi Hendrix kind)
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all religions have a "greater being" to worship. how many millions have died in the name of god, allah, muhammad or whoever you you worship? no one can prove their existance. it's all on hearsay, scriptures from a book, etc. i'm not sure what to believe. scientists have found stuff that could exlain things about our pasts but still everything is all theories. it would be interesting to see how people's beliefs would be if aliens were actually discovered...
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Originally posted by Mud View PostAtheists lack a belief in God. Therefore they believe there is no God.
Same thing.
The lines are fuzzy between agnosticism and atheism imo. As we see in this thread, people define agnosticism differently. Same with atheism.
For me, agnosticism is stating 'maybe there is a god, maybe there aint'.
Whilst atheism is saying 'i dont believe in any gods'. (of the supernatural universe creating kind....not the Jimi Hendrix kind)
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Originally posted by Mud View PostAtheists lack a belief in God. Therefore they believe there is no God.
Same thing.
The lines are fuzzy between agnosticism and atheism imo. As we see in this thread, people define agnosticism differently. Same with atheism.
For me, agnosticism is stating 'maybe there is a god, maybe there aint'.
Whilst atheism is saying 'i dont believe in any gods'. (of the supernatural universe creating kind....not the Jimi Hendrix kind)
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The Bringer already killed this thread.
The notion that so-called "not knowing" equates to being agnostic, however, relates to the logical fallacy that 'religiousness' is a default position.
You can never prove a negative. If I drop an egg, and it breaks and splatters on the ground, I can say with a high degree of probability that gravity was responsible. But, you can not prove this to be the case.
Asking someone to prove that there is no god is like asking someone to prove that there is gravity. It can't be done.
Regardless, why must religion be the default position? I am not religious, and I have never been religious. By definition, that makes me an atheist.
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