Don't You Fkn Hate Conspiracy Theorists...Or Are YOU One Of Them?

[Sweet Pea 50]

how is it disrespectful to want the troops back home safe from fighting wars that are caused by governments interests? why do you think a guy liek ron paul who advocated for peace as opposed to war mongering got so much support from vets than romney and obama combined?

You're putting words on my keyboard.

You are advocating the use of violence against "warmongers."

Sound logic.

[Drunken Cat]

Is it even greater than your urge to masturbate horses?

Considerably so.

[Drunken Cat]

Al CIAda.

The five dancing Israelis anyone? Do a google on it.

[ZeeBrah]

Care to elaborate on OKC?

I'm simply unfamiliar with the argument.

I've always believed it was just a simply case of a rightwing nut who had the capabilities to pull it off, more or less (on account of his army training, etc.).

Here is one short summary:

http://www.americanfreepress.net/htm...al_murder.html

You can find this info on less biased sources as well. It's legit.

[Jack3d]

I'm not a tinfoil hat wearing kind of guy, but this thread is too general. For example, you don't think there was a conspiracy to assassinate MLK? Lots of conspiracies have truth behind them. Many don't.

Agreed. Ever heard of Operation Northwoods?

[ZeeBrah]

Agreed. Ever heard of Operation Northwoods?

Not until now. Thank you.

[Derranged]

The CIA and Mossad never killed anybody. Silly conspiracy theorists, believing that they did!

The cartels in Mexico have never conspired to control the drug trade!

There is no such thing as a "conspiracy" - all human beings are completely innocent & honest and incapable of anything like that!

You already posted that. We saw it the first time.

[squealpiggy]

I don't understand. I think there was a massive conspiracy in the 60's to mid 70's to kill opposition or what some considered a threat. Look at this, in less than a two year period, 68-69 alone, these people were all assassinated:

Martin Luther King (1968), Robert F. Kennedy (1968), Bobby Hutton [BPP] (1968), Steve Bartholemew [BPP] (1968), Tommy Lewis [BPP] (1968), Robert Lawrence (1968), Welton "Butch" Armstead [BPP] (1968), Sidney Miller (1968), Frank "Capt. Franco" Diggs (1968), Fred Hampton [BPP] (1969), Alprentice "Bunchy" Carter [BPP] (1969), John Huggins (1969), Alex Rackley [BPP] (1969), Sylvester Bell (1969), John Savage (1969), Larry Roberson [BPP] (1969), Nathaniel Clark [BPP] (1969), Walter "Toure" Pope (1969), Carlos Marighela (1969), Spurgeon "Jake" Winters [BPP] (1969), Mark Clark (1969), Ron Black (1969), Eugene Anderson (1969), Sterling Jones [BPP] (1969), Edwin Pratt [American civil rights Activist in Seattle] (1969)

Then you consider JFK '63, Medger Evers '63, Malcolm X '65, a whole lot of black panthers and other leftist/radicals in 70-74 and you realize, jesus **** the CIA/FBI were absolutely brutal, especially now that we know about COINTELPRO and other such programs.

Are you suggesting that all of the above murders are attributable to the CIA and/or FBI? Because you seem to be.

All I want is a straight answer on why building 7 came down

No you don't you lying tossbag. You've had a straight answer on this numerous times and you keep on pretending that you haven't.

[squealpiggy]

By the way, would anyone care to take a stab at any of these questions regarding 9/11? The presumptive inability to address them does sort of beg the question of how one can be so quick to believe the official story at face value.



http://tvnewslies.org/tvnl/index.php...ommentary.html

ALL of these talking points have been addressed on this very forum. But every one could be addressed with "I don't know, what do YOU think?" and then we can scrutinize clearly each of your claims.

Here are my answers YET AGAIN.

1. Why did the news agencies report that WTC 7 collapsed almost 1/2 hour before it did, even though it was not hit by a plane, only had a few floors on fire, and gave no indication that it was in any serious danger?

First thing's first: What are you suggesting here? That the sinister conspirators planning an attack on the American people gave the media the heads up? That the BBC could not be trusted to report WT7 collapsing so had to be told ahead of time?

Anyway there were reports over several hours that the building was on the verge of collapse due to uncontrolled fires throughout most of the building. The BBC misconstrued one of those reports and thought it had already collapsed. Easy to do in a hectic situation.

2. Why do we still believe the tale of the 19 hijackers when so many of the accused hijackers showed up ALIVE within days? And why do we still believe the fable of the 19 hijackers when the FBI admitted that they are not sure about either the identity of the hijackers or if there were any hijackers at all?

This is a simple lie.

3. Why was WTC 7 rebuilt, reopened and reoccupied with no press attention? Wouldn't this be an important victory in American resolve and perseverance?

Not really. WTC1 & 2 were considered to be marvels on engineering, for a long time the tallest buildings in the world and an icon of American greatness. That's why they were targeted. WTC7 was just another big building.

4. Why were the NORAD rules changed for the first time several weeks prior to 9/11, taking responsibility/authority for shooting down hijacked planes away from NORAD military command for the first time in its history, and given to a civilian, Donald Rumsfeld, and then returned to NORAD the day after 9/11?

They weren't. This is another lie. Dick Cheney wad made chair of a task force dealing with emergency preparedness which included some exercises with NORAD, no civilian was ceded control of NORAD during 9/11.

Why would this be necessary or desirable for the alleged conspirators anyway?

5. Why would hijackers planning on attacking NY and Washington DC drive from Florida, pass both DC and NY, and drive all the way to Maine and hinge this huge operation on a connecting flight from Maine to Boston, where we are told they hijacked their plane? Why wouldn't they fly out of any of the airports that are visible from their targets, like Newark, La Guardia or JFK...or even some of the smaller local airports that would have given them a clear easy path to their target and reduce the amount of time that our air defense systems would have to stop them?

Why not?

6. Who placed all of those put options on the airlines just prior to the event, as if they knew that the stock prices on those specific airlines would lose a huge amount of value?

An analysis of the stock market prior to 9/11 shows that this sort of activity was nothing out of the ordinary. It happened dozens of times before 9/11 without anything bad happening. It only gained significance after the effect when conspiracy theorists went anomaly hunting.

7. Why did George W. Bush's Secret Service detail not rush the president to safety when it was evident that the nation was under attack? If the nation was under attack, and they did not know the scope of the attack, and the president's location was known, how did they not worry about being attacked in Florida?. Why did they act as if they knew that there was no threat? And why, when our nation was under attack, did the president not rush into action? If you say he was concerned about upsetting the children, you are the ultimate apologist. He could have told them that his mommy was on the phone and he had to see what she wanted. Our county was supposedly being attacked and he/they waited 20 minutes before they moved. This is the smoking gun of smoking guns.

Wow, you must be right. Perhaps you could show me the section in the Secret Service manual that proves they failed to follow protocol on 9/11.

Here's a better idea: You're suggesting that the president was somehow in on it. Why not arrange for the president to be at Camp David or overseas, or at the White House or anywhere else when the planes hit? No, he was at a school doing a meet and greet.

Was there anywhere that the President could have been on 9/11 that you would not consider to be suspicious? Bearing in mind that if he was on the observation deck of the WTC when the planes hit you would alter the narrative so that the shadow government wanted the president gone.

8. Why did the FBI never list Osama bin Laden as being wanted for 9/11? Actually, we know this one...because they admitted that they had no evidence linking him to the event.

The FBI said:

"The alleged terrorists on this list have been indicted by sitting Federal Grand Juries in various jurisdictions in the United States for the crimes reflected on their wanted posters. Evidence was gathered and presented to the Grand Juries, which led to their being charged. The indictments currently listed on the posters allow them to be arrested and brought to justice. Future indictments may be handed down as various investigations proceed in connection to other terrorist incidents, for example, the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001."

On the other hand why didn't the conspirators know this? If the whole thing was a fit-up why not indict Bin Laden for that too? Because that would be illegal?

9. Why was their molten metal flowing under the wreckage of the WTC for months? No jet fuel can melt metal, and nothing explainable could melt that much metal and keep it hot enough to remain molten for a month.

"No jet fuel can melt metal"? I'm going to assume you didn't think this comment through, considering how many metals are molten at room temperature.

So let's assume you're talking about steel: Fistly there was no molten steel, secondly there was no molten metal for "months". This is another lie. There was some molten aluminium and other metals which have a considerably lower melting point than steel.

But assuming that this wasn't a lie and there really was molten metal beneath the WTC for "months", what do you think caused it? What could possibly cause steel to remain as a liquid state for "months"? What is your theory?

10. How did a passport of one of the so called hijackers make it through the huge fireball and end up on the street?

Lots of things made it unscathed onto the streets in the initial impact.

11. Why have photos from the 80+ cameras confiscated at the Pentagon never been released?

Lots of photos have been released, along with lots of video footage. I would guess that ones that are of no relevance would not be worthy of comment. And considering any photos that do support the reality that a plane hit the Pentagon are routinely and studiously ignored by the lunatic set I would guess you would simply deny and handwave those too.

Why did the airplane that supposedly crashed at Shanksville vaporize so that nothing remained, not bodies, not luggage, not metal, - nothing - for the first time in aviation history? However, we are told that even though the plane vaporized at Shanksville, a hand-written note from a hijacker was found.

Anyone who told you the plane "vapourised" at Shanksville is lying or is misinformed. There wasn't much left of the plane of course but both engines were immediately apparent along with a huge amount of plane debris etc in the crater.

I predict that this thread will soon be locked.

[Sweet Pea 50]

You already posted that. We saw it the first time.

For real.

I don't see anybody arguing against that the CIA and Mossad have killed people.

It's not like the KGB were having fucking cookie bake sells, either.