Amber Lyon Former CNN Journalist Says Obama Admin. Is Jailing Journalists

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Watch the f@king video or shut the f@k up you government d1ck sucking twat.

Translation = Defeat

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Man, when will you sheep stop paying Alex Jones mortgage and buying him nice cars?

It's amazing the dumbass people that live on this planet. It's never stops shocking me, really it doesn't. I think someone made a video of all the "predictions" that Alex Jones has made that never came true and are simply lies and yet he is still up and running.

Amazing.

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If Alex Jones didn't always sound like he was doing WWF commentary he might have an ounce of credibility.

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IDGAF about Obama jailing journalists, in fact I flat out don't believe it.

Her interview about exposing CNN is much more compelling than this. That's the BIG story, not about ****ing Obama.

[Canelo Phresh]

At least you address the substance of my argument instead of producing petty personal insults.



I'll watch the relevant section once you tell me what it is. I'm not going to watch the whole thing and neither is anyone else. Here's what I suspect: There is no mention in any other venue, including infowars, of Obama's administration jailing journalists because there is not mention in the video either. You're relying on the fact that people will believe you without watching the video because if they did then they'd find out, after 45 minutes of tortuous Jones-listening, it was horseballs.

You can easily prove me wrong. You won't. But you could.



You mean like... the German people in the 1930s? Here's a question: If, in the unlikely event you actually believe this garbage, the Obama administration is JAILING journalists for refusing to name their sources, what exactly are you doing about it? Posting youtube videos on boxing websites? You're doing a shit-ton of fuck-all about it. Your country is being run by an unprecedented TYRANT and you're not even willing to provide a timestamp for the video. That is WAY too much effort!

What a brave young man you are, fighting for the good of humanity by doing absolutely nothing that will expose you to any risks at all.



Yet you defended it like someone had pissed in your vagina.



So because I fail to immediately fawn over any bullturds that pop out of Alex Jones' fat hillbilly mouth I'm a "lemming"?



Was that journalist called Judith Miller? Maybe it's just you, maybe you're confused.

I'm watching the video now. They're talking about Bahrain, which is certainly an interesting subject. Alex Jones keeps interjecting with utterly stupid things like "Anderson Cooper is CIA and that's been proven" that Amber Lyon is willing to overlook for some reason.

So far the story is that Bahrain is paying CNN to create news content. Oh now Alex has just told Amber that there are generals who are always at CNN making sure that people tow the line. She just told him there wasn't. He is such a bullshit merchant. Fifteen minutes in and I'm on the second commercial break. Came back from the break and Jones blathered on about people being shot in the head while she looked confused. Eventually he gave her an opportunity to speak saying "Break that down for us" at which point she ignored him and talked about Bahrain again. Alex mentioned "journalists being arrested for exposing crimes" but named no-one.

No he's talking about the TSA and the No Fly List. Apparently a journalist was put on the No Fly list. She just ruined any credibility she had by telling Alex he's not a conspiracy theorist. Ask him about chemtrails, Amber.

From 21 minutes - James Risen? That's the name. Subpoena for journos going after sources.

You owe me 21 minutes, ****.

Anyway James Risen received a subpoena from the Bush administration following work on the National Security Agency - in relation to Jeffrey Sterling, a CIA officer who had his Top Security clearance revoked after he gave information to a journalist. This subpoena was renewed by the Obama government. The subpoena was entirely related to the Sterling case, Risen is in the process of fighting it. If the subpoena is not quashed and Risen still refuses to testify he risks being jailed.

It's not quite as exciting as "Obama sending journalists to jail" and it isn't anywhere close to "journalist charged under espionage act". I suspect that Jones hasn't decided to pounce on this one because he doesn't fully understand it. Far more saleable to shout "FEMA CAMPS!" and "PLASTIC COFFINS!" while selling stupid bumper stickers to ******s.

Lyon's message was about Bahrain, though it seems she has taken a turn for the wacky looking at her website



So I should automatically believe, by default, any crackpot utterance of the most deranged conspiracy theorist ever to masturbate on a street corner on the basis that "the world is built on lies"?



Arresting journalists is very plausible. It happens in Russia, China, Venezuela, Iran, any of the "Arab Spring" nations, Zimbabwe... the trouble is that strongarm despots arresting journos and dissidents in troubled countries is at best ignored or at worst applauded by the kind of dipshits who shout the loudest about the US issuing subpoenas for journalists to testify.



News is mostly entertainment nowadays. I usually watch CP24 because it's local to Toronto and they have the weather and traffic report. I tend to learn about the world around me using numerous sources including the BBC, newspaper websites, local radio and the like. There's this crazy myth among wackaloons that everyone picks their favourite news channel and believes it without question. I think that this myth exists because said wackaloons pick their own favourite news channel like Russia Today or Prison Planet or some doofy blog and believe it without question.

Most people don't really care about the real world. I do. That's why I feel the need to counter misinformation and stupidity on this forum. If at least one person can be convinced to cast a critical eye over some bizarre claim then at least I'm having some sort of influence.



The National Defence Authorization Act is something which is signed every single year by every single President. It authorises the budget and expenditures of the Department of Defence for the year.

If you bothered to actually find out about the world then you wouldn't make this stupid error.

You watched the video.

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You watched the video.

I watched until I reached the relevant section then I stopped. It didn't say anything even remotely like what you claimed.

[Canelo Phresh]

I watched until I reached the relevant section then I stopped. It didn't say anything even remotely like what you claimed.

It was along those lines. It sends a message to any other journalists doing real news.

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It was along those lines. It sends a message to any other journalists doing real news.

It wasn't along those lines. It was a statement about journalists being subpoenaed in relation to people being charged with espionage - they're being charged because they hold positions with high level security clearance and they're abusing those positions by divulging secret information.

The story here is the issue with CNN censoring Bahrain stories. Amber Lyon was fairly competent but Jones yet again was almost dada-ist with his Anderson-Cooper-is-CIA nonsense. And I bet he just loves that a real journalist told him he isn't a conspiracy theorist! Hey Amber, you have just ****ed your own credibility with that statement. Ask him about the UFO invasion in Canada and the FEMA camps!

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It wasn't along those lines. It was a statement about journalists being subpoenaed in relation to people being charged with espionage - they're being charged because they hold positions with high level security clearance and they're abusing those positions by divulging secret information.

The story here is the issue with CNN censoring Bahrain stories. Amber Lyon was fairly competent but Jones yet again was almost dada-ist with his Anderson-Cooper-is-CIA nonsense. And I bet he just loves that a real journalist told him he isn't a conspiracy theorist! Hey Amber, you have just ****ed your own credibility with that statement. Ask him about the UFO invasion in Canada and the FEMA camps!

"So what Obama has done with his war on whistle blowers and going after journalists with subpoenas is he has created a chilling effect that we have never seen. Obama has prosecuted more journalists and whistle blowers than any other president in our history under the 1917 espionage act including pulitzer prize winning new york times journalist James Risen. When the networks see Obama going after journalists to reveal there sources that creates a chilling effect. Obama has turned journalists into criminals. He has criminalized Journalsim." Amber Lyon 21:30 through 22:40. Her own words narrowed it down to a minute. Thats exactly what she said. Now try and spin it into hows shes a psychopath or whatever nonsense youll try to spin it with.

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Judge Catherine Forrest overturns ndaa bill citing it would strip citizens of their rights.
http://www.businessinsider.com/ndaa-...-reddit-2012-9
Obama Administration is fighting her over turning of the bill.
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runnin...s_ndaa_law.php
Judge Forrest states that the bill violates both the 1st and 5th amendments.

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"So what Obama has done with his war on whistle blowers and going after journalists with subpoenas is he has created a chilling effect that we have never seen. Obama has prosecuted more journalists and whistle blowers than any other president in our history under the 1917 espionage act including pulitzer prize winning new york times journalist James Risen. When the networks see Obama going after journalists to reveal there sources that creates a chilling effect. Obama has turned journalists into criminals. He has criminalized Journalsim." Amber Lyon 21:30 through 22:40. Her own words narrowed it down to a minute. Thats exactly what she said. Now try and spin it into hows shes a psychopath or whatever nonsense youll try to spin it with.

Why didn't you do this yesterday? It would have saved me having to listen to Alex Jones' gravelly hero and let's cut to commercials to line my pockets schtick! No, you relied on ME to do your research!

Anyway let's look at the claim:

So what Obama has done with his war on whistle blowers and going after journalists with subpoenas is he has created a chilling effect that we have never seen.

Obama isn't actually going after the whistleblowers. The laws as pertains to subpoenaing journalists to testify against their sources is a strict one, and the request to subpoena has to be signed off by the Attorney General. There is a crackdown on people leaking secret information though, since 9/11. This is understandable given the nature and contention of the current wars being fought worldwide.

Obama has prosecuted more journalists and whistle blowers

Obama hasn't prosecuted any journalists. If Obama was prosecuting journalists then this would be huge news, it would be international news. The fact is that the only person mentioning this is one disgruntled journalist on a crackpot radio phone-in.

Ask yourself why, if the prosecution of one journalist in 2004 made international headlines, is there not even a mention outside of Alex Jones' three-ring-circus of a systematic campaign of journalists being prosecuted.

Journalists may be subpoenaed but they are not being prosecuted for what they write. Of course failing to respond to a subpoena could result in a contempt charge but this would be brought by the court, not the Administration. These things are separate in the United States.

than any other president in our history under the 1917 espionage act including pulitzer prize winning new york times journalist James Risen.

Interesting she mentions Risen's Pullitzer Prize. I'm not a big fan of argument from authority and the only reason for mentioning Risen's Pullitzer is the same reason Jones was banging on about Lyon's Emmy: They wish to create an unassailable aura of authority to discourage people from addressing the substance of the claims. James Risen won a Pullitzer prize. The New York Times was later forced to apologise to a Chinese American computer consultant after Risen produced an article accusing him of espionage resulting in him spending months in pretrial solitary confinement.

The moral of the story is that authorities and experts can make mistakes and therefore scrutiny should always be applied to the content of the claims themselves rather than the pedigree of the person making them.

When the networks see Obama going after journalists to reveal there sources that creates a chilling effect. Obama has turned journalists into criminals. He has criminalized Journalsim.

This is hyperbole. Pure and simple.

Obama is not prosecuting journalists, the administration is not targeting journalists. The administration is going after people who betray their oath to secrecy they take when they take on serious roles in National intelligence agencies.

The content of her claims about Obama does not stand up to scrutiny. Even her comments about the "chilling effect" were take verbatim from the New York Times.