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(VIDEO) ESPN analysts comparing Lebron to Jordan??
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Age does has something to do with it, to those that said it doesn't.
We can all agree that physically/ability-wise, LeBron is on par with a lot of the all time greats.
The biggest knock on him has been what? Shrinking on the big stage. Not playing fundamentally sound basketball when it's mattered the most. LeBron made countless critical mistakes when losing the Finals twice, a stage that most don't even get to see once. That all comes with maturity and development. And we are seeing that now. It happened with Jordan, it happened with Magic, etc.
The issues with comparing LeBron to Jordan and others are many. The circumstances surrounding their careers are radically different, and they are playing in a different league. Most importantly, LeBron is at his peak NOW, with only half of his story being written.
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Originally posted by joseph5620 View PostThat's not a factor at all. Because Jordan did not have the same help that Lebron has. Jordan would have won with Miami too.
And if you compare the influx of talent, and look at how many superstars are on Thunder, Jordan never had to face a team with that calibre of players.
Durant is a 3 time scoring leader. Harden and Westbrook have the potential to be scoring leaders if they were on other teams. Ibaka is one of the best defenders in the league. Safalosha is a great 1on1 defender. You can't seriously tell me that Jordan has ever faced a more skilled team than that.
Originally posted by bojangles1987 View PostThat is so stupid to post, I mean it's completely idiotic.
Jordan took 6 years. Lebron took 9. That's far more relevant. As is Lebron losing in two Finals, whereas Jordan never lost in the Finals.
But if you look at Lebron's overall numbers in his 9 years and how he pretty much does every single thing on the court at a high level(something even Jordan couldn't do), it isn't crazy to even suggest that Lebron is better. You can make an argument both ways as to who is greater even right now IMO.
Personally this isn't boxing, tennis or golf so to compare them just based on titles is ridiculous. So IMO I would pic Lebron over Jordan. But I could see how ppl would pick Jordan over Lebron too. Neither is a crazy statement.
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Originally posted by kswizzy99 View PostJordan had more help for the time that he played compared to Lebron now. Wade and Bosh weren't playing at the level this year as Pippen and Rodman did when they were with Jordan. Neither had a good finals series or even a good playoffs in general.
And if you compare the influx of talent, and look at how many superstars are on Thunder, Jordan never had to face a team with that calibre of players.
Durant is a 3 time scoring leader. Harden and Westbrook have the potential to be scoring leaders if they were on other teams. Ibaka is one of the best defenders in the league. Safalosha is a great 1on1 defender. You can't seriously tell me that Jordan has ever faced a more skilled team than that
You're contradicting yourself. First you said Wade and Bosh didn't play on the level as Pippen and Rodman (which I don't agree with) and then you talk about how Jordan and the bulls never played against a team as good as Oklahoma. Which I also disagree with. You can't have it both ways.How are you going to claim the Thunder had more skilled players (Harden?) than Magic Johnson, Karl Malone, John Stockton, Isaiah Thomas or Rodman (who you included for Chicago)?Those are HOF players. Not including all of the excellent role players (Worthy, Scott) for each team.
That's beyond ridiculous.Last edited by joseph5620; 06-23-2012, 01:58 AM.
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Originally posted by kswizzy99 View PostDurant is a 3 time scoring leader. Harden and Westbrook have the potential to be scoring leaders if they were on other teams. Ibaka is one of the best defenders in the league. Safalosha is a great 1on1 defender. You can't seriously tell me that Jordan has ever faced a more skilled team than that.
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Originally posted by kswizzy99 View PostJordan had more help for the time that he played compared to Lebron now. Wade and Bosh weren't playing at the level this year as Pippen and Rodman did when they were with Jordan. Neither had a good finals series or even a good playoffs in general.
And if you compare the influx of talent, and look at how many superstars are on Thunder, Jordan never had to face a team with that calibre of players.
Durant is a 3 time scoring leader. Harden and Westbrook have the potential to be scoring leaders if they were on other teams. Ibaka is one of the best defenders in the league. Safalosha is a great 1on1 defender. You can't seriously tell me that Jordan has ever faced a more skilled team than that.
Portland= drexler and porter
Seattle= payton(kemp was one of the most dominant pf in the game at the time.)
Phoenix= barkley and k.j.
Utah= malone and stockton
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Originally posted by bojangles1987 View PostJudging just on ability, a lot of guys can be compared to Jordan. It would be stupid to bring up Vince Carter among the best players ever though, wouldn't it?
when you do that you cant help but to look at jordan. for years it was all about MJ, not that long ago. so whenever someone takes jordans place as the best active player in the sport and as the face of the sport amongst active players. ppl cant help but to wonder if he will ever take jordans all time spot.
the best players/prospects of today will always be compared with the best players of the past, its normal, maybe even human nature. its not dissrespectful to jordan its a compliment that whenever someone dominates the league they think of MJ. LBJ is already the king, so whats the next step? become the king of kings, currently Michael Jordan.
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