Israel vs Iran Who Ya Got?

[-Jay-]

When your country calls for the destruction of other countries, you want transperacy

Either way I don't understand why you can't have transperacy unless a country has started a war

I guess thats a fair point lmao.

I'm off to enjoy night with a lot of rum. Good debate fellas.

[Flawless*]

When your country calls for the destruction of other countries, you want transperacy

Either way I don't understand why you can't have transperacy unless a country has started a war

More western propaganda as usual. The Iranian president never said he wanted the destruction of Israel or being wiped off the map. But rather the removal of the apartheid regime in Israel which has caused unbelievable damage on the Palestinians.

[MonsieurGeorges]

I agree with your point but how can you demand transparency when Iran has never started a war in its existence?

How can we demand it? Because we are the dominate military force, that is the point of issuing an ultimatum. We also have the best allies. What do you think the result would be in an all out war between all Muslim nations and a western coalition of say the yanks, the dutch, the australians, brits, finns etc. There would be huge casualties on both sides, but the west would surely win. And I don't believe all Muslim nations would band together, look at the history of that region. They fight like dogs amongst themselves many times, they will be more worried about who gets power after the dust settles than keeping religious solidarity during the fighting

Also, as I've already said I'm not worried about Iran-proper firing a nuke as much as I am the technology being somehow kicked down ladder to some kind of rogue element. Are there anti-American rogue elements in the middle east? yes. What if the regime gets toppled in civil wars in the next thirty years and atom bombs end up in the hands of a modern day Pol-Pot type of guy?

Also look at what happened in Fukushima Daiichi Japan. A freak environmental event caused a huge nuclear disaster. How safe do you really think Irans reactors are? They should give us transparency just so we can come in and determine that everything is modern and secure for the sake of the human beings in the area. Area there any major fault lines near Iran?

The west has already learned these lessons with 3 mile island and of course chernobyl, and so now so too have the east Asians. It is downright horrifying, the Middle east does not need to even give itself the chance to repeat that awful chapter of history. We need to be so, so, so careful with nuclear technology. We can't this attitude where just let anyone tinker with it, if they make a mistake or have bad intentions they could affect the whole world

I would like my children to grow up in world where there is no threat from a radical religious leader such as ahmadinjad. The man is a holocaust denier that I absolutely don't trust and he is not even very popular with native Iranians. Ideally I would love to make the Iranians our ally and trading partner, it is a beautiful part of the world and I would like to see a future where Americans and Iranians can travel between nations, culturally enrich ourselves and have no hostility in the air.

[MonsieurGeorges]

More western propaganda as usual. The Iranian president never said he wanted the destruction of Israel or being wiped off the map. But rather the removal of the apartheid regime in Israel which has caused unbelievable damage on the Palestinians.

liberal propaganda as usual.

see how easy that is

now lets talk like adults, are you ready?

how do you feel about ahmadinajad's holocaust denial?

[Flawless*]

liberal propaganda as usual.

see how easy that is

now lets talk like adults, are you ready?

how do you feel about ahmadinajad's holocaust denial?

I find nothing wrong with ahmadinejad holocaust denial. That is his personal opinion. I believe that Holocaust did happen, however, the numbers was greatly overstated for the benefit of the Jewish people. Because of this "holocaust", Israel exists now and Jewish people will always play his card and milk it for what its worth. Don't believe this 6 million number being touted

[MonsieurGeorges]

If you guys are interested in nuclear technology check out the thread I started in this section titled "what i saw in north korea and why it matters. " eye opening stuff, great photography from inside DPRK

[MonsieurGeorges]

I find nothing wrong with ahmadinejad holocaust denial. That is his personal opinion. I believe that Holocaust did happen, however, the numbers was greatly overstated for the benefit of the Jewish people. Because of this "holocaust", Israel exists now and Jewish people will always play his card and milk it for what its worth. Don't believe this 6 million number being touted

I agree 6 million is likely an slight overstatement and many of the men in east euro work camps probably died because the region-wide famine toward the end of the war, but are you saying think there is some kind of jewish conspiracy currently puppet-mastering the US and possibly western Europe?

[F l i c k e r]

If you guys are interested in nuclear technology check out the thread I started in this section titled "what i saw in north korea and why it matters. " eye opening stuff, great photography from inside DPRK

I saw it earlier but just didn't have the patience to watch it. I read the text stuff though.

I think we all know they have nuclear weapons, it's been an issue for some time. Just gotta wait to see what they will do with them. I suppose.

[MonsieurGeorges]

I saw it earlier but just didn't have the patience to watch it. I read the text stuff though.

I think we all know they have nuclear weapons, it's been an issue for some time. Just gotta wait to see what they will do with them. I suppose.

please check it out if you ever get bored. it's about much more than just bombs, it goes deep into their cultural roots and their strong desire to stand on their own feet after being sandwiched by China and Japan for so long. Honestly, you can read Kim Jong-Ils writings on his official website and he was a socialist genius in the same ball park as Lenin. I never would've thought that until I read deeply into his philosophies, there is so much that the common westerner doesn't understand about the DPRK

[Rossman]

I find nothing wrong with ahmadinejad holocaust denial. That is his personal opinion. I believe that Holocaust did happen, however, the numbers was greatly overstated for the benefit of the Jewish people. Because of this "holocaust", Israel exists now and Jewish people will always play his card and milk it for what its worth. Don't believe this 6 million number being touted

If anything it was understated. Millions of bodies were unaccounted for and not included. Any denile of the holocaust are lies to build the anti Jewish machine that many feel is their religious duty. It's the Jewish now, next it will be the Christians and athiests. No true religion promotes hate.