Texas lawmaker to introduce anti-immigration bill

[Dick Buffman]

if academia leans to the left.. it might just be because most facts "lean to the left".

the world is actually starting to balance itself out.. more and more people are having less children.
anyway, yeah.. that's a grrreeat idea! let's see how many 16 year olds want to be out in the fields picking strawberrys in the scorching heat.
if 16 year olds aint doing these jobs.. it's for a reason. they DONT want to..

Sure they will. If you give a kid the opportunity to do it and a fair wage, they'll do it.

You're advocating exploitation of the immigrant worker.

But its not just fruit picking, its every kind of entry level job there is.

I don't know why you're trying to change the subject anyway, the issue is enforcing immigration law.

If the Fed's won't uphold it, the states will.

Period end of.

[Sin City]

BS. It was done before them, and will be done after them. There is a reason for minimum wage. We as American citizens earned the right to have a minimum wage. Only reason illegals are hired for that is because they will work for less then minimum. **** anyone who hires them.

This is nothing like italians, or irish. Not even close. There are very few japs as you call them in America.

Do you really need a example of how there leaching scum? I mean come on.. Too easy. They ****ed up the supply, and demand for brush picking, and bark peeling where I grew up. Causing the price of each to drop dramatically, causing young kids looking for a summer job like me to be ****ed over with a lot of money. They kill all the animals illegally causing hunting season to be shortened, and less tags handed out to legals. One house was found with over 100 deer corpses under it. They sit in there front yards all day collecting money not meant for them, and flip you off as you drive by like they own the place.

Shall I go on? Has nothing to do with racism. Has a lot to do with what's legal, and whats not.

As much as you want to think they are needed.. They are not. There not special, besides the fact they will work for less then minimum. You don't think some kid will get out there and pick fruit all summer long? Well then you have a complete deluded view on America.

One American cornfed 16 year old can do the same amount of work as 3 illegals. You have no proof that an American kid would take jobs like picking fruit.. Your argument is that al Illegals are doing it, and thats because americans dont want to or wouldnt. Right..... Thats one of the biggest myths, and bugs the **** out of me.

Americas dirty jobs have always been done by immigrants..
and then slaves before them.

anyway, you seem really bitter. reaching & blaming "illegals" for hunting season being shorter.. lol I know whites that illegaly hunt.. matter of fact, the only people that I know personally who hunt are whites. hey.. because you couldn't compete with them in the job market and couldn't find yourself a better job than picking shrubs you hating on them. seems like you are blaming them for being legal and not being able to get a worthy job, not their fault.
you just not good enough.

[Dick Buffman]

Lol, this sin city guy really hates white people.




According to him:

1)American citizens, whether white or hispanic don't want jobs.

2)Illegal immigration is a good thing because fruit doesn't pick itself

3)Facts lean to the left

4)White people hunt illegally

[BoxingFanFirst]

Americas dirty jobs have always been done by immigrants..
and then slaves before them.

anyway, you seem really bitter. reaching & blaming "illegals" for hunting season being shorter.. lol I know whites that illegaly hunt.. matter of fact, the only people that I know personally who hunt are whites. hey.. because you couldn't compete with them in the job market and couldn't find yourself a better job than picking shrubs you hating on them. seems like you are blaming them for being legal and not being able to get a worthy job, not their fault.
you just not good enough.

You're worthless to argue with. You use your own opinions to make points. So whenever I say something I experienced, you will just think some **** up in your head, and use that to debate me..

So peace out... Dip****.

[AKATheMack]

Lol, this sin city guy really hates white people.




According to him:

1)American citizens, whether white or hispanic don't want jobs.

2)Illegal immigration is a good thing because fruit doesn't pick itself

3)Facts lean to the left

4)White people hunt illegally

Thats funny **** right there.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

BS. It was done before them, and will be done after them. There is a reason for minimum wage. We as American citizens earned the right to have a minimum wage. Only reason illegals are hired for that is because they will work for less then minimum. **** anyone who hires them.

This is nothing like italians, or irish. Not even close. There are very few japs as you call them in America.

Do you really need a example of how there leaching scum? I mean come on.. Too easy. They ****ed up the supply, and demand for brush picking, and bark peeling where I grew up. Causing the price of each to drop dramatically, causing young kids looking for a summer job like me to be ****ed over with a lot of money. They kill all the animals illegally causing hunting season to be shortened, and less tags handed out to legals. One house was found with over 100 deer corpses under it. They sit in there front yards all day collecting money not meant for them, and flip you off as you drive by like they own the place.

Shall I go on? Has nothing to do with racism. Has a lot to do with what's legal, and whats not.

As much as you want to think they are needed.. They are not. There not special, besides the fact they will work for less then minimum. You don't think some kid will get out there and pick fruit all summer long? Well then you have a complete deluded view on America.

One American cornfed 16 year old can do the same amount of work as 3 illegals. You have no proof that an American kid would take jobs like picking fruit.. Your argument is that al Illegals are doing it, and thats because americans dont want to or wouldnt. Right..... Thats one of the biggest myths, and bugs the **** out of me.

Leeching scum? Your an ignorant fool. These people come here to work and work hard.

If you think that white Americans are willing to do the same work that illegal Mexicans and Central Americans will do you are fooling yourself.

First off, immigrants have done the work in this country from the very beginning, whether it was the African Americans in the South, the Mexicans in the South West and the Chinese slave labor in the West.

In the 1930, when men were men and Americans were working hard, they refused to do the agricultural work because they wanted to get paid more than the .60 per hour that was being offered in California.

Heres a link, read up: http://migration.ucdavis.edu/rmn/more.php?id=788_0_6_0

Most of the work was being done by Mexicans or Mexican/Americans. If you think Americans today want to get out of the air conditioning, put down their laptops and xbox controllers and go outside and work in the hot sun, your fooling yourself.

Illegal migration to the U.S is nobody else's fault but America's. It has exploited these people for over 200 years and now all of a sudden want to "protect the borders" .......how convenient.

This law is absolute bull****, the whole probable cause idea is entirely too subjective and has already for years allowed people to be pulled over and fuked with just because they are brown or black. What exactly will constitute probable cause for an officer to think that someone doesn't have the proper documentation to legally be here in this country? Bad English? There are a million and one people here in Miami that can barely speak english and were born here. I'm sure that is the same case there.

In addition, the paranoia of people is amazing and more importantly so is the entitlement. These Europeans came and took this land and now are mad when people want to come and prosper like they did. Fuk these mother fukers.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

The big distinction here is Immigration Officers vs Regular Police Officers. The interaction that the regular public has with the with police officers is typically for something totally unrelated to their legal status in the country. During these interactions what would give them an idea that someone isn't legal in the country? Absolutely none.

The Federal Immigration Officers are investigating these issues and are not randomly stopping someone for speeding and then asking them for a green card.

The absurdity of all this is so apparent. Each of these branches of law enforcement should stick to what they are proficient at doing. They can barely do that **** correctly.

[AKATheMack]

Leeching scum? Your an ignorant fool. These people come here to work and work hard.

If you think that white Americans are willing to do the same work that illegal Mexicans and Central Americans will do you are fooling yourself.

First off, immigrants have done the work in this country from the very beginning, whether it was the African Americans in the South, the Mexicans in the South West and the Chinese slave labor in the West.

In the 1930, when men were men and Americans were working hard, they refused to do the agricultural work because they wanted to get paid more than the .60 per hour that was being offered in California.

Heres a link, read up: http://migration.ucdavis.edu/rmn/more.php?id=788_0_6_0

Most of the work was being done by Mexicans or Mexican/Americans. If you think Americans today want to get out of the air conditioning, put down their laptops and xbox controllers and go outside and work in the hot sun, your fooling yourself.

Illegal migration to the U.S is nobody else's fault but America's. It has exploited these people for over 200 years and now all of a sudden want to "protect the borders" .......how convenient.

This law is absolute bull****, the whole probable cause idea is entirely too subjective and has already for years allowed people to be pulled over and fuked with just because they are brown or black. What exactly will constitute probable cause for an officer to think that someone doesn't have the proper documentation to legally be here in this country? Bad English? There are a million and one people here in Miami that can barely speak english and were born here. I'm sure that is the same case there.

In addition, the paranoia of people is amazing and more importantly so is the entitlement. These Europeans came and took this land and now are mad when people want to come and prosper like they did. Fuk these mother fukers.

Kill Whitey?

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The demonizing of illegal immigrants


By Jeff Jacoby, Globe Columnist | June 13, 2007

WRITING IN The Examiner last month, the ranking Republican on the House Immigration Subcommittee offered an endearing analogy to explain his opposition to the Senate's proposed immigration overhaul.

Kindergarten students, wrote Iowa Representative Steve King, are taught to line up at snack time and patiently wait their turn. A child who cuts in front of the others is promptly reprimanded and sent to the back of the line. "If not, the entire classroom erupts with charges of 'That's not fair!"' Making the line-cutter wait until all the other children have gotten their snacks teaches "the entire class . . . that good behavior is rewarded and bad behavior is punished." King's conclusion: "The Senate amnesty proposal amounts to letting every line-cutter walk away with his cupcake."

Given the rancor with which so much of the immigration debate is conducted, there's a winsome appeal to this "kindergarten" comparison. But winsome or not, King's analogy fails. Illegal immigrants don't steal across the Mexican border because they lack the patience to wait their turn in line. They do it because there is no line for them to wait in.

The great majority of immigrants who enter the United States lawfully qualify for visas because of family ties: They are lucky enough to be related to a US citizen. For them, there is indeed a line -- the waiting time for a family-based visa can take upward of 10 years. A smaller number of legal immigrants are granted visas because they have advanced degrees or specialized skills and a job is waiting for them.

For most illegal immigrants, a legal option simply doesn't exist. Under current law, a young Mexican or Salvadoran who wants to improve his life by moving to America and working hard at a useful job generally has just two options: (a) Enter illegally, or (b) stay out forever. Several hundred thousand a year choose option (a).

To Representative King and those who think the way he does -- the Pat Buchanans, the Lou Dobbses, the conservative talk-show hosts and their riled listeners -- the illegal entry is all that matters. They don't ask whether it makes sense to bar industrious and productive go-getters who value America as a land of opportunity and who supply labor for which there is a yawning demand. As far as they're concerned, illegal aliens are "immigration criminals," and the only issue on the agenda is how to keep them out.

"Put up a giant fence," demands radio talkmaster Glenn Beck. "You stop the people who are coming here because they're criminals or they want to do us harm." In a Page 1 story on the grass-roots opposition to the immigration bill, The New York Times quotes "angry voter" Monique Thibodeaux, an office manager in suburban Detroit: "These people came in the wrong way, so they don't belong here, period."

But something is not wrong -- intrinsically wrong, bad in and of itself -- merely because it is illegal. It is against the law to put anything without postage into someone's mailbox.

If your neighbor prints flyers advertising a yard sale and drops one into each letterbox on the street, he has broken the law, but would anyone say he has done something evil?

Someone who crosses the border without a visa in order to find work doesn't deserve to be branded a "criminal." Doing so only inflames and confuses an issue that is contentious enough as it is. And it cheapens a word that should be reserved for those who purposely harm others through genuinely wrongful behavior: embezzlers, rapists, arsonists, murderers.

The demonizing of illegal aliens keeps us from having a rational discussion about US immigration policy.

The national debate should be focused on real issues -- how many annual newcomers our economy can absorb, the best way to encourage immigrants to assimilate, what to require of illegals so they can get right with the law, how to protect national security without undermining the open character of American society. Instead we are saddled with hysterical condemnations of "amnesty" and delusional demands for a 2,000-mile barrier along the Mexican border.

Twenty years ago this week in Berlin, President Reagan uttered his memorable challenge: "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" Conservatives who extol Reagan's legacy might ask themselves what he would have thought of the idea that our response to hard-working risk-takers so eager for a piece of the American Dream that they endanger life and limb to come here should be a Berlin-style wall of our own. I suspect it's a notion he would have scorned, along with the suggestion that all we really need to know about immigration we learned in kindergarten.

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/edi...al_immigrants/

[KRITKL]

Poor white folks,
you guys have it so bad