**the official la lakers thread**

[extracurRICular]

the worst thing is if they stand pat and use the injury excuse to hide the fact that the team needs to get younger and more athletic

hopefully Pau's expiring $19mil will tempt a team out there to make a deal


even amnestying Artest doesnt make that much sense...that's only $7mil off the books but it could allow them to renegotiate a smaller contract if he wants to come back


i think it's time to give Goudelock a legit shot at being the back up 2...get rid of Meeks...get rid of Ebanks since he's not playing anyway...clear up as much space as possible

once the space is there who do you realistically see wearing the purple n gold???

[BERNIE'S CORNER]

the worst thing is if they stand pat and use the injury excuse to hide the fact that the team needs to get younger and more athletic

hopefully Pau's expiring $19mil will tempt a team out there to make a deal


even amnestying Artest doesnt make that much sense...that's only $7mil off the books but it could allow them to renegotiate a smaller contract if he wants to come back


i think it's time to give Goudelock a legit shot at being the back up 2...get rid of Meeks...get rid of Ebanks since he's not playing anyway...clear up as much space as possible

What they say publicly is a feeble atempt 2 save face.

Younger they must get.

Thing about amnesty is once it's done it's done.

Meaning there's no renegotiating contract.

Learned that after we used it on Billups.

Lotta tough decisions coming up 4 the Lake Show.

As fans we never wanna see our teams take a step back 2 go foward but it's time 4 the brass 2 give it some thought.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

once the space is there who do you realistically see wearing the purple n gold???

here's a list of 2013 Free Agents

Point Guards

Jeff Teague Atlanta Hawks
Devin Harris Atlanta Hawks
CJ Watson Brooklyn Nets
Daniel Gibson Cleveland Cavaliers
Darren Collison Dallas Mavericks
Rodrigue Beaubois Dallas Mavericks
Nate Robinson Chicago Bulls
Jerryd Bayless Memphis Grizzlies
Mario Chalmers Miami Heat
Julyan Stone Denver Nuggets
Rodney Stuckey Detroit Pistons
Will Bynum Detroit Pistons
Jarrett Jack Golden State Warriors
Charles Jenkins Philadelphia 76ers
Toney Douglas Sacramento Kings
D.J. Augustin Indiana Pacers
Ben Hansbrough Indiana Pacers
Chris Paul Los Angeles Clippers
Chauncey Billups Los Angeles Clippers
Chris Duhon Los Angeles Lakers
Darius Morris Los Angeles Lakers
Beno Udrih Orlando Magic
Brandon Jennings Milwaukee Bucks
Brian Roberts New Orleans Pelicans
Eric Maynor Portland Trail Blazers
Pablo Prigioni New York Knicks
Patty Mills San Antonio Spurs
E'Twaun Moore Orlando Magic
Jose Calderon Detroit Pistons
Kyle Lowry Toronto Raptors
John Lucas III Toronto Raptors
Isaiah Thomas Sacramento Kings
Sebastian Telfair Toronto Raptors
Mo Williams Utah Jazz
Earl Watson Utah Jazz
Jamaal Tinsley Utah Jazz
A.J. Price Washington Wizards
Shaun Livingston Cleveland Cavaliers
Nolan Smith Portland Trail Blazers
Patrick Beverley Houston Rockets
Mike James Dallas Mavericks
Jeremy Pargo Philadelphia 76ers
Derek Fisher Oklahoma City Thunder
Aaron Brooks Houston Rockets
Jannero Pargo Charlotte Bobcats
Justin Dentmon Dallas Mavericks
Jerel McNeal Utah Jazz $27,859

Shooting Guards
Name Team Previous Salary Next Salary Type
DeShawn Stevenson Atlanta Hawks
Kyle Korver Atlanta Hawks
Anthony Morrow Dallas Mavericks
Keith Bogans Brooklyn Nets
Jerry Stackhouse Brooklyn Nets
Ben Gordon Charlotte Bobcats
Gerald Henderson Charlotte Bobcats
Leandro Barbosa Washington Wizards
O.J. Mayo Dallas Mavericks
Dahntay Jones Atlanta Hawks
Richard Hamilton Chicago Bulls
Marco Belinelli Chicago Bulls
Tony Allen Memphis Grizzlies
Wayne Ellington Cleveland Cavaliers
Ray Allen Miami Heat
Corey Maggette Detroit Pistons
Kim English Detroit Pistons
Kent Bazemore Golden State Warriors
Lance Stephenson Indiana Pacers
Willie Green Los Angeles Clippers
Jodie Meeks Los Angeles Lakers
Monta Ellis Milwaukee Bucks
Marquis Daniels Milwaukee Bucks
Brandon Roy Minnesota Timberwolves
Roger Mason Jr. New Orleans Pelicans
Kevin Martin Oklahoma City Thunder
J.R. Smith New York Knicks $2,806,452
Ronnie Brewer Oklahoma City Thunder
Manu Ginobili San Antonio Spurs
Gary Neal San Antonio Spurs
J.J. Redick Milwaukee Bucks
Francisco Garcia Houston Rockets
Tyrke Evans Sacramento Kings
Wesley Johnson Phoenix Suns
Shannon Brown Phoenix Suns
Diante Garrett Phoenix Suns
Randy Foye Utah Jazz
Kevin Murphy Utah Jazz
Martell Webster Washington Wizards
Cartier Martin Washington Wizards
Elliot Williams Portland Trail Blazers
Sasha Pavlovic Portland Trail Blazers
Nick Young Philadelphia 76ers
Royal Ivey Philadelphia 76ers
Damien Wilkins Philadelphia 76ers
Mickael Pietrus Toronto Raptors
Garrett Temple Washington Wizards $
Daequan Cook Chicago Bulls
James Anderson Houston Rockets
Terence Williams Boston Celtics

Small Forwards
Name Team Previous Salary Next Salary Type
Josh Smith Atlanta Hawks
Mike Scott Atlanta Hawks
Paul Pierce Boston Celtics
Reggie Williams Charlotte Bobcats
Shawn Marion Dallas Mavericks
Omri Casspi Cleveland Cavaliers
C.J. Miles Cleveland Cavaliers
Vladimir Radmanovic Chicago Bulls
Andre Iguodala Denver Nuggets
James Jones Miami Heat
Quincy Miller Denver Nuggets
Corey Brewer Denver Nuggets
Richard Jefferson Golden State Warriors
Brandon Rush Golden State Warriors
Carlos Delfino Houston Rockets
Chandler Parsons Houston Rockets
Lamar Odom Los Angeles Clippers
Matt Barnes Los Angeles Clippers
Metta World Peace Los Angeles Lakers
Devin Ebanks Los Angeles Lakers
Mike Dunleavy Milwaukee Bucks
Andrei Kirilenko Minnesota Timberwolves
Chase Budinger Minnesota Timberwolves
Xavier Henry New Orleans Pelicans
Darius Miller New Orleans Pelicans
DeAndre Liggins Oklahoma City Thunder
James White New York Knicks $854,389
Chris Copeland New York Knicks $473,604
Stephen Jackson San Antonio Spurs
Hedo Turkoglu Orlando Magic
DeQuan Jones Orlando Magic
Linas Kleiza Toronto Raptors $4,600,000
Alan Anderson Toronto Raptors $854,389
Marvin Williams Utah Jazz $8,287,500
DeMarre Carroll Utah Jazz $885,120
Trevor Ariza Washington Wizards
Luke Babbitt Portland Trail Blazers
Dorell Wright Philadelphia 76ers
Chris Johnson - X Memphis Grizzlies
Sam Young Indiana Pacers
Mickael Gelabale Minnesota Timberwolves

Power Forwards
Name Team Previous Salary Next Salary Type
Ivan Johnson Atlanta Hawks
Anthony Tolliver Atlanta Hawks
Andray Blatche Brooklyn Nets
Luke Walton Cleveland Cavaliers
Chris Wilcox Boston Celtics
Elton Brand Dallas Mavericks
Brandon Wright Dallas Mavericks
Rashard Lewis Miami Heat
Charlie Villanueva Detroit Pistons
Jason Maxiell Detroit Pistons
Austin Daye Memphis Grizzlies
Carl Landry Golden State Warriors
David West Indiana Pacers
Tyler Hansbrough Indiana Pacers
Jeff Pendergraph Indiana Pacers
Earl Clark Los Angeles Lakers
Antawn Jamison Los Angeles Lakers
Dante Cunningham Minnesota Timberwolves
Al-Farouq Aminu New Orleans Pelicans
Jason Smith New Orleans Pelicans
Lance Thomas New Orleans Pelicans
Kurt Thomas New York Knicks
Rasheed Wallace New York Knicks
Boris Diaw San Antonio Spurs
Matt Bonner San Antonio Spurs
DeJuan Blair San Antonio Spurs
Al Harrington Orlando Magic
Josh McRoberts Charlotte Bobcats
James Johnson Sacramento Kings
Jermaine O'Neal Phoenix Suns
P.J. Tucker Phoenix Suns
Paul Millsap Utah Jazz
J.J. Hickson Portland Trail Blazers
Jared Jeffries Portland Trail Blazers
Kwame Brown Philadelphia 76ers
Kevin Jones Cleveland Cavaliers
Jeff Adrien Charlotte Bobcats
Jarvis Varnado Miami Heat
Malcolm Thomas Chicago Bulls
DaJuan Summers Los Angeles Clippers
Louis Amundson New Orleans Pelicans

Centers
Name Team Previous Salary Next Salary Type
Zaza Pachulia Atlanta Hawks
Johan Petro Atlanta Hawks
DeSagana Diop Charlotte Bobcats
Byron Mullens Charlotte Bobcats
Jason Collins Washington Wizards
Chris Kaman Dallas Mavericks
Bernard James Dallas Mavericks
Jon Leuer Memphis Grizzlies
Nazr Mohammed Chicago Bulls
Timofey Mozgov Denver Nuggets
Marreese Speights Cleveland Cavaliers
Hamed Haddadi Phoenix Suns
Dexter Pittman Memphis Grizzlies
Andris Biedrins Golden State Warriors
Cole Aldrich Sacramento Kings
Greg Smith Houston Rockets
Ronny Turiaf Los Angeles Clippers
Ryan Hollins Los Angeles Clippers
Dwight Howard Los Angeles Lakers
Robert Sacre Los Angeles Lakers
Samuel Dalembert Milwaukee Bucks
Joel Pryzbilla Milwaukee Bucks
Nikola Pekovic Minnesota Timberwolves
Greg Stiemsma Minnesota Timberwolves
Robin Lopez New Orleans Pelicans
Hasheem Thabeet Oklahoma City Thunder
Daniel Orton Oklahoma City Thunder
Tiago Splitter San Antonio Spurs
Gustavo Ayon Milwaukee Bucks
Kyle O'Quinn Orlando Magic
Aaron Gray Toronto Raptors
Al Jefferson Utah Jazz
Emeka Okafor Washington Wizards
Andrew Bynum Philadelphia 76ers
Chris Andersen Miami Heat
Tim Ohlbrecht Houston Rockets

[MODAPHUKA]

Not only that but Kobe is shot to **** already , he was never an efficient player to begin with. Now with only the points record as the only achievable record in sight he is set to jack up jumpers like crazy for however many months he has left in the league.

So is not like people want to play with him. People didn't want to play with him to begin with. He is a bad teammate and a horrible leader. Always criticizing his teammates through the media and making dumb comments.

And nobody for sure will want to play with Dwight Howard , he is a nightmare. The worst star in the league by far. Horrible leader and throws everybody under the bus without hesitating.

The Lakers are ****ed. Who's going to want to play in L.A. Probably Mo Williams and Gerald Wallace. Maybe Stephen Jackson. You can trade Metta for Boris Diaw and Gasol for Hansbrpugh and hope another team drafts a future star and makes the horrible mistake of trading them to the Lakers. That was a gift. Lakers are just lucky. They had the officials behind their last 5 championships.

[extracurRICular]

here's a list of 2013 Free Agents

Point Guards

Jeff Teague Atlanta Hawks
Devin Harris Atlanta Hawks
CJ Watson Brooklyn Nets
Daniel Gibson Cleveland Cavaliers
Darren Collison Dallas Mavericks
Rodrigue Beaubois Dallas Mavericks
Nate Robinson Chicago Bulls
Jerryd Bayless Memphis Grizzlies
Mario Chalmers Miami Heat
Julyan Stone Denver Nuggets
Rodney Stuckey Detroit Pistons
Will Bynum Detroit Pistons
Jarrett Jack Golden State Warriors
Charles Jenkins Philadelphia 76ers
Toney Douglas Sacramento Kings
D.J. Augustin Indiana Pacers
Ben Hansbrough Indiana Pacers
Chris Paul Los Angeles Clippers
Chauncey Billups Los Angeles Clippers
Chris Duhon Los Angeles Lakers
Darius Morris Los Angeles Lakers
Beno Udrih Orlando Magic
Brandon Jennings Milwaukee Bucks
Brian Roberts New Orleans Pelicans
Eric Maynor Portland Trail Blazers
Pablo Prigioni New York Knicks
Patty Mills San Antonio Spurs
E'Twaun Moore Orlando Magic
Jose Calderon Detroit Pistons
Kyle Lowry Toronto Raptors
John Lucas III Toronto Raptors
Isaiah Thomas Sacramento Kings
Sebastian Telfair Toronto Raptors
Mo Williams Utah Jazz
Earl Watson Utah Jazz
Jamaal Tinsley Utah Jazz
A.J. Price Washington Wizards
Shaun Livingston Cleveland Cavaliers
Nolan Smith Portland Trail Blazers
Patrick Beverley Houston Rockets
Mike James Dallas Mavericks
Jeremy Pargo Philadelphia 76ers
Derek Fisher Oklahoma City Thunder
Aaron Brooks Houston Rockets
Jannero Pargo Charlotte Bobcats
Justin Dentmon Dallas Mavericks
Jerel McNeal Utah Jazz $27,859

Shooting Guards
Name Team Previous Salary Next Salary Type
DeShawn Stevenson Atlanta Hawks
Kyle Korver Atlanta Hawks
Anthony Morrow Dallas Mavericks
Keith Bogans Brooklyn Nets
Jerry Stackhouse Brooklyn Nets
Ben Gordon Charlotte Bobcats
Gerald Henderson Charlotte Bobcats
Leandro Barbosa Washington Wizards
O.J. Mayo Dallas Mavericks
Dahntay Jones Atlanta Hawks
Richard Hamilton Chicago Bulls
Marco Belinelli Chicago Bulls
Tony Allen Memphis Grizzlies
Wayne Ellington Cleveland Cavaliers
Ray Allen Miami Heat
Corey Maggette Detroit Pistons
Kim English Detroit Pistons
Kent Bazemore Golden State Warriors
Lance Stephenson Indiana Pacers
Willie Green Los Angeles Clippers
Jodie Meeks Los Angeles Lakers
Monta Ellis Milwaukee Bucks
Marquis Daniels Milwaukee Bucks
Brandon Roy Minnesota Timberwolves
Roger Mason Jr. New Orleans Pelicans
Kevin Martin Oklahoma City Thunder
J.R. Smith New York Knicks $2,806,452
Ronnie Brewer Oklahoma City Thunder
Manu Ginobili San Antonio Spurs
Gary Neal San Antonio Spurs
J.J. Redick Milwaukee Bucks
Francisco Garcia Houston Rockets
Tyrke Evans Sacramento Kings
Wesley Johnson Phoenix Suns
Shannon Brown Phoenix Suns
Diante Garrett Phoenix Suns
Randy Foye Utah Jazz
Kevin Murphy Utah Jazz
Martell Webster Washington Wizards
Cartier Martin Washington Wizards
Elliot Williams Portland Trail Blazers
Sasha Pavlovic Portland Trail Blazers
Nick Young Philadelphia 76ers
Royal Ivey Philadelphia 76ers
Damien Wilkins Philadelphia 76ers
Mickael Pietrus Toronto Raptors
Garrett Temple Washington Wizards $
Daequan Cook Chicago Bulls
James Anderson Houston Rockets
Terence Williams Boston Celtics

Small Forwards
Name Team Previous Salary Next Salary Type
Josh Smith Atlanta Hawks
Mike Scott Atlanta Hawks
Paul Pierce Boston Celtics
Reggie Williams Charlotte Bobcats
Shawn Marion Dallas Mavericks
Omri Casspi Cleveland Cavaliers
C.J. Miles Cleveland Cavaliers
Vladimir Radmanovic Chicago Bulls
Andre Iguodala Denver Nuggets
James Jones Miami Heat
Quincy Miller Denver Nuggets
Corey Brewer Denver Nuggets
Richard Jefferson Golden State Warriors
Brandon Rush Golden State Warriors
Carlos Delfino Houston Rockets
Chandler Parsons Houston Rockets
Lamar Odom Los Angeles Clippers
Matt Barnes Los Angeles Clippers
Metta World Peace Los Angeles Lakers
Devin Ebanks Los Angeles Lakers
Mike Dunleavy Milwaukee Bucks
Andrei Kirilenko Minnesota Timberwolves
Chase Budinger Minnesota Timberwolves
Xavier Henry New Orleans Pelicans
Darius Miller New Orleans Pelicans
DeAndre Liggins Oklahoma City Thunder
James White New York Knicks $854,389
Chris Copeland New York Knicks $473,604
Stephen Jackson San Antonio Spurs
Hedo Turkoglu Orlando Magic
DeQuan Jones Orlando Magic
Linas Kleiza Toronto Raptors $4,600,000
Alan Anderson Toronto Raptors $854,389
Marvin Williams Utah Jazz $8,287,500
DeMarre Carroll Utah Jazz $885,120
Trevor Ariza Washington Wizards
Luke Babbitt Portland Trail Blazers
Dorell Wright Philadelphia 76ers
Chris Johnson - X Memphis Grizzlies
Sam Young Indiana Pacers
Mickael Gelabale Minnesota Timberwolves

Power Forwards
Name Team Previous Salary Next Salary Type
Ivan Johnson Atlanta Hawks
Anthony Tolliver Atlanta Hawks
Andray Blatche Brooklyn Nets
Luke Walton Cleveland Cavaliers
Chris Wilcox Boston Celtics
Elton Brand Dallas Mavericks
Brandon Wright Dallas Mavericks
Rashard Lewis Miami Heat
Charlie Villanueva Detroit Pistons
Jason Maxiell Detroit Pistons
Austin Daye Memphis Grizzlies
Carl Landry Golden State Warriors
David West Indiana Pacers
Tyler Hansbrough Indiana Pacers
Jeff Pendergraph Indiana Pacers
Earl Clark Los Angeles Lakers
Antawn Jamison Los Angeles Lakers
Dante Cunningham Minnesota Timberwolves
Al-Farouq Aminu New Orleans Pelicans
Jason Smith New Orleans Pelicans
Lance Thomas New Orleans Pelicans
Kurt Thomas New York Knicks
Rasheed Wallace New York Knicks
Boris Diaw San Antonio Spurs
Matt Bonner San Antonio Spurs
DeJuan Blair San Antonio Spurs
Al Harrington Orlando Magic
Josh McRoberts Charlotte Bobcats
James Johnson Sacramento Kings
Jermaine O'Neal Phoenix Suns
P.J. Tucker Phoenix Suns
Paul Millsap Utah Jazz
J.J. Hickson Portland Trail Blazers
Jared Jeffries Portland Trail Blazers
Kwame Brown Philadelphia 76ers
Kevin Jones Cleveland Cavaliers
Jeff Adrien Charlotte Bobcats
Jarvis Varnado Miami Heat
Malcolm Thomas Chicago Bulls
DaJuan Summers Los Angeles Clippers
Louis Amundson New Orleans Pelicans

Centers
Name Team Previous Salary Next Salary Type
Zaza Pachulia Atlanta Hawks
Johan Petro Atlanta Hawks
DeSagana Diop Charlotte Bobcats
Byron Mullens Charlotte Bobcats
Jason Collins Washington Wizards
Chris Kaman Dallas Mavericks
Bernard James Dallas Mavericks
Jon Leuer Memphis Grizzlies
Nazr Mohammed Chicago Bulls
Timofey Mozgov Denver Nuggets
Marreese Speights Cleveland Cavaliers
Hamed Haddadi Phoenix Suns
Dexter Pittman Memphis Grizzlies
Andris Biedrins Golden State Warriors
Cole Aldrich Sacramento Kings
Greg Smith Houston Rockets
Ronny Turiaf Los Angeles Clippers
Ryan Hollins Los Angeles Clippers
Dwight Howard Los Angeles Lakers
Robert Sacre Los Angeles Lakers
Samuel Dalembert Milwaukee Bucks
Joel Pryzbilla Milwaukee Bucks
Nikola Pekovic Minnesota Timberwolves
Greg Stiemsma Minnesota Timberwolves
Robin Lopez New Orleans Pelicans
Hasheem Thabeet Oklahoma City Thunder
Daniel Orton Oklahoma City Thunder
Tiago Splitter San Antonio Spurs
Gustavo Ayon Milwaukee Bucks
Kyle O'Quinn Orlando Magic
Aaron Gray Toronto Raptors
Al Jefferson Utah Jazz
Emeka Okafor Washington Wizards
Andrew Bynum Philadelphia 76ers
Chris Andersen Miami Heat
Tim Ohlbrecht Houston Rockets

with our luck we gonna get

[Left Hook Tua]

The thing with the Lakers is that their fans are obnoxious and bipolar.

They scream pit for a new coach , then they have him and they want him gone. They scream for Pau Gasol to come back , when they have him they wish they traded him and call him soft.

Its a normal behavior in Los Angeles. It all started when Kobe requested to be traded and then a few years later he was so proud to be a Laker.

And their fans are fairweather fans. They only support their team when they are doing good. If they are struggling they are all chaotic and out of control and being bipolar as ****.

They act like females on their period. Glad to see them have their panties in a bunch for a whole season.

"We are going to have to be dealt with" Kobe at the beginning of the season. I think he forgot to add "In the doctors office"

idiot. stfu.

you don't know anything.

if lakers fans were so fairweather why are their tv ratings and attendance so high even when they suck?

[The Tase]

so is dhoward coming back or not?

and what did he say to mitch when he was walking off?

[BERNIE'S CORNER]

idiot. stfu.

you don't know anything.

if lakers fans were so fairweather why are their tv ratings and attendance so high even when they suck?

To see what idiotic things are said by D"Antoni ???

[Left Hook Tua]

talking about free agents is meaningless right now.

we don't know who's willing to play for minimum and only 1 year.

we can't offer more than minimum. i don't even know if MLE applies to us anymore. not familiar with new cba concerning exemptions.

and we don't want a multi-year contract because our whole plan is 2014 cap space and free agency.

[Left Hook Tua]

so is dhoward coming back or not?

and what did he say to mitch when he was walking off?

he probably will stay.

but tbh i'd rather he leave.