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Originally posted by dan-b View Post
Well it never should have been created for one thing. It's never declared its borders or its nuclear weapons, so hasn't signed the NPT. Its occupation of Palestinian territory has been enabled by US protecting it with the Security Council veto.
The US has paid billions to support this rogue state thanks to lobbying by a very active minority, which has actually worked against US interests.
Carving out a piece of Germany to create a Jewish state
or even giving away Denmark outright to the jews
Would have been adequate compensation and more importantly pragmatic
seizing land that the Jews left long ago to make Israel doomed them to eternal hostilities
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Originally posted by Prince Madison View Posttime to pick sides... anyone siding with iran? guessing Citizen Koba dont know of anyone else
Fact I basically have a very cynical take on states in general... bunch of gangsters fighting turf wars is more or less how I see the world. And that includes our so called 'enlightened' Western statesdan-b Prince Madison like this.
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Originally posted by Citizen Koba View Post
I don't really do sides man, just interested in understanding what's going on when you strip away all the propaganda and ideological nonsense. Don't like Iranians and their theocratic authoritarian bullchit, don't like the Israelis and their colonial supremacist bullchit.
Fact I basically have a very cynical take on states in general... bunch of gangsters fighting turf wars is more or less how I see the world. And that includes our so called 'enlightened' Western states
Semite includes Arabs
Israel by its own actions is anti-Semitic
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Originally posted by Citizen Koba View Post
I don't really do sides man, just interested in understanding what's going on when you strip away all the propaganda and ideological nonsense. Don't like Iranians and their theocratic authoritarian bullchit, don't like the Israelis and their colonial supremacist bullchit.
Fact I basically have a very cynical take on states in general... bunch of gangsters fighting turf wars is more or less how I see the world. And that includes our so called 'enlightened' Western states
Mearsheimer and Walt's excellent text, The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy, is a must-read for anyone with a serious interest in this subject.
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Originally posted by dan-b View Post
Good post. Quite why alt-right edgelords think supporting "Israel" is noble is beyond me. This entity has been working against US interests for decades whilst taking billions of its tax money.
Mearsheimer and Walt's excellent text, The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy, is a must-read for anyone with a serious interest in this subject.
they been bought off
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Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View PostIs this why DC collectively supports Israel
they been bought off
An example is after 9/11 when Bush ordered Israel to pull out of the Occupied Territories. The lobby went into overdrive and Bush backed down, afraid it would cost him a second term.Citizen Koba GrandpaBernard like this.
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Originally posted by dan-b View Post
Israel just has a very effective lobby working on its behalf in DC. It's a loose affiliation of various Jewish groups along with the Christian Zionists. It's not a secret conspiracy or anything, it happens quite openly as explained in the book I cited.
An example is after 9/11 when Bush ordered Israel to pull out of the Occupied Territories. The lobby went into overdrive and Bush backed down, afraid it would cost him a second term.
And the US cant tell his wife to shut up
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...condition.html
7 year old israeli girl in critical condition due to iranian shrapnel
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