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  • Originally posted by Alec900 View Post
    Wenger is the worst manager in football for poor sportsmanship and wacky demands. Even Alex Ferguson says "That Wenger is a poor sportsman" in between going purple and crying about unfit referees.

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    • Originally posted by Stalaggh View Post
      Givens, the keeper, REALLY!!!???, thats bull**** right there, Van Der Sar, Cech, even Friedel have been more consistent.
      Cech has been shaky this year, Van Der Sar has been letting in large numbers of goals. Friedel is a really good keeper but Given has prevented City losses time and time again this year, and despite City's defensive frailties has made save after save to keep games alive.

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      • Has a team ever been playing so badly and been 5 points clear at the top of the league?

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        • Originally posted by Sparked_1985 View Post
          Has a team ever been playing so badly and been 5 points clear at the top of the league?
          Has a team ever played so badly and had about 1/2 good games so far in the season and are still 5 points (with game in hand) behind the top team... With a hell load of first team players injured

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          • Originally posted by AssasinKing View Post
            Has a team ever played so badly and had about 1/2 good games so far in the season and are still 5 points (with game in hand) behind the top team... With a hell load of first team players injured
            That said, if Chelsea didn't have a horrible december we'd be about 10 points clear now.

            Maybe neither Man Utd or Chelsea are that much better than the rest. It's a tight league.

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            • Manchester United needs to give Guillermo Ochoa a look.

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              • Originally posted by Sparked_1985 View Post
                That said, if Chelsea didn't have a horrible december we'd be about 10 points clear now.

                Maybe neither Man Utd or Chelsea are that much better than the rest. It's a tight league.
                Personally i do feel United and Chelsea are another step up from Arsenal and liverpool.... this isnt a dig at Arsenal or liverpool cos as you can see....on their day they can beat any1...

                But just the strength in depth...We have been missing so many players and virtually our whole defense and still are close to chelsea.....Chelsea could probably do the same.....

                Where as liverpool missing gerrard and torres looked terrible and not the same team....arsenal coped abit better without their star player (fabregas)

                11 vs 11, top 4 teams are great...but when you go to the substitutes and the strength defensivly....united and chelsea are ahead of them

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                • Originally posted by squealpiggy View Post
                  Cech has been shaky this year, Van Der Sar has been letting in large numbers of goals. Friedel is a really good keeper but Given has prevented City losses time and time again this year, and despite City's defensive frailties has made save after save to keep games alive.
                  Yeah maybe so, but so did Givens in the final season with Newcastle, goals were leaking in like crazy. Not saying Givens is **** or sucks but honestly, even though they are ****s because they play for United and Chelsea, Cech or Edwin should be named the top two of the decade.

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                  • Originally posted by Stalaggh View Post
                    Yeah maybe so, but so did Givens in the final season with Newcastle, goals were leaking in like crazy.
                    Be fair though Newcastle were pure dog**** and the ONLY good thing about the team was the goalkeeper.

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                    • Given #1 is fair, he's the best prem keeper right now.

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