Weightlifting or cardio?

[Kunkle]

It seems that I either have to stick to weightlifting or cardio. Seems that they both almost cancel out eachother. If I want to start boxing, how do I know how to distribute time spent on cardio versus time of weightlifting?

[hemichromis]

well sparing and punching the heavybag will do more for your power than lifting weights but it will also do alot for your cardio, possibly more than running i would personally say weights but thats probably because i love the weights!

i dont see any reason wy you cant do both!

[Kunkle]

I do not currently own a punching bag but will buy one after I take lessons and get a good technique. So it wouldn't be a waste to combine cardio with weightlifting?

[fraidycat]

What he said. You should do both.

I just had my first fight, and I am a firm believer in compound lifts and punishing amounts of daily cardio for boxing conditioning. This is in addition to actual boxing training, of course.

Massive amounts of daily cardio does inhibit bodybuilding-type gains from weightlifting; but bodybuilding routines like you see in muscle mags pretty much won't help you for **** in boxing. Cardio and strength training -- meaning compound Olympic lifts like cleans, snatches, squats, and deadlifts -- work great together. And, when coupled with boxing training, they will help your boxing.

[potatoes]

I do not currently own a punching bag but will buy one after I take lessons and get a good technique. So it wouldn't be a waste to combine cardio with weightlifting?

Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano didn't need to do weightlifting, so then, why do you? Good old fashioned boxing training will get you fit enough and strong enough for boxing.

[fraidycat]

Jack Dempsey worked for a living. I'll put an early-20th Century logger against a modern day office worker any day of the week. Marciano was already a professional athlete.

Potatoes must be allergic to iron.

EDIT: The guy who gave me the shiner and busted nose in my avatar is a powerlifter who boxes once a week to "stay cut." He couldn't box too well but he could hit like a mother****er. Those bruises are from having my glove pounded into my face for three rounds -- technically, he landed very few punches -- and my nose was broken by my headgear getting knocked sideways. So Potatoes, do me a favor: go three rounds with a powerlifter, and then convince me that weightlifting doesn't make you more able to hit hard.

Weightlifting may not increase your boxing skills, but the right exercises on the weight pile will sure as **** make you hit better. Which is, well, kind of important. His hitting ability alone could have cost me the damned fight -- I sincerely believe I was only one glaring mistake away from Canvas City the whole time.

[Hunna]

Jack Dempsey worked for a living. I'll put an early-20th Century logger against a modern day office worker any day of the week. Marciano was already a professional athlete.

Potatoes must be allergic to iron.

EDIT: The guy who gave me the shiner and busted nose in my avatar is a powerlifter who boxes once a week to "stay cut." He couldn't box too well but he could hit like a mother****er. Those bruises are from having my glove pounded into my face for three rounds -- technically, he landed very few punches -- and my nose was broken by my headgear getting knocked sideways. So Potatoes, do me a favor: go three rounds with a powerlifter, and then convince me that weightlifting doesn't make you more able to hit hard.

Weightlifting may not increase your boxing skills, but the right exercises on the weight pile will sure as **** make you hit better. Which is, well, kind of important. His hitting ability alone could have cost me the damned fight -- I sincerely believe I was only one glaring mistake away from Canvas City the whole time.

you should of been ducking and weaving dude( chris tucker off "Friday"), powerlifters slow as hell and got no endurance, try sparring a seasoned pro-heavyweight ( a few classes above a dopey powerlifter), then u wouldnt even show ur avatar, all u would need is a black and blue avatar, cos dats what ur face would be looking.

[leff]

you should of been ducking and weaving dude( chris tucker off "Friday"), powerlifters slow as hell and got no endurance, try sparring a seasoned pro-heavyweight ( a few classes above a dopey powerlifter), then u wouldnt even show ur avatar, all u would need is a black and blue avatar, cos dats what ur face would be looking.

bodybuilder tend to be slow, powerlifters on the other hand tends to be very explosive

[fraidycat]

bodybuilder tend to be slow, powerlifters on the other hand tends to be very explosive

He was NOT slow. It was like fighting off a pit bull.

The whole "weights make you slow" myth rears its cross-eyed, drooling head yet again.

[KingDosia]

Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano didn't need to do weightlifting, so then, why do you? Good old fashioned boxing training will get you fit enough and strong enough for boxing.

YOU FORGOT TO MENTION THE BOOK

TRUTH IS NATURAL STRENGTH AND CONDITIONING WILL ONLY GET YOU IN THE DOOR NOW A DAYS. IF THAT. YOU NEED TO STRENGTH TRAIN. YOU NEED IT. AND REMEMBER YOUR NOT DOING THIS IN THE SAME MANNER AS A BODY BUILDER. SO TO EMPHASIZE WEIGHLIFTING ALONE WOULDN'T BE THE CORRECT WAY TO GO ABOUT IT EITHER. BUT STRENGTH TRAINING IS AS EVERYBODY EVEN POTATOES HAS TO ADMIT ESSENTIALY RESISTANCE TRAINING. "WEIGHTS ARE MADE JUST FOR THAT" YOUR CARDIO, WHOEVER SAID YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME COMBINING THE TWO IS AN IDIOT. YOU NEED THEM BOTH. ALL ATHLETES WHO DEPEND ON POWER AND ENDURANCE DO. FOOTBALL, WRESTLING FOR EXAMPLE. DEPEND ON SOME OF THE SAME ATRIBUTES THAT BOXERS DO POWER, SPEED AND ENDURANCE. MY ADVICE DO SOME RESEARCH ON TRAINING FOR POWER LIFTERS, FOOTBALL PLAYERS, AND WRESTLERS. "AS WELL AS BOXING" YOU GET A GOOD CARDIO WORKOUT WHILE TRAINING, BUT DON'T LIMIT YOURSELF TO THAT ALONE. DO SOME INTENSE INTERVAL TRAINING. "SOMTHING LIKE WINDSPRINTS." OR EVEN A 3-4 MILE RUN USING A 3 MIN OF SPRINTS FOLLOWED BY 1MIN OF JOGGING. IS AN EXCELLENT WAY TO GET THE WORK TO REST RATIO OF A BOXING MATCH. DO SOME RESEARCH AND MIX IT UP DON'T FOCUS TOO MUCH ON THE WEIGHTS AND WHEN YOU DO USE THEM MAKE SURE ITS COMPOUND MOVEMENTS, FOCUSED ON YOUR BODIES CORE, AND LEGS.