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    http://www.maxboxing.com/Kim/Kim092006.asp

    Here's an excerpt of an article on Morales' training for his next fight with Pacman. Clearly, someone is trying to make Morales heavy and slow :
    "As for what exercises are utilized, Park says, "A little bit of everything," with plyometrics, core strengthening drills, running and the old boxing taboo - weight training.

    Which Park clarifies by explaining, "In terms of actual weight training, per se, I wouldn't say it's in the general terms that people know weight training, such as bench pressing or barbell squats, things of that nature. Because the object with Erik is not necessarily to put on mass but to get to his weight. So we didn't want to put on a lot of muscle because losing muscle is very, very difficult.

    “So it was matter of just keeping what he had, making sure that it was strong and even stronger."

    Morales worked with the Velocity team six days a week (his off-day being Sunday), switching between cardiovascular and interval running every other day, followed by a resting period where he would eat a meal and consume supplements, followed by a strength training workout, which took approximately an hour.

    Workouts such as these are common in the other major sports. But boxing has been painfully slow to adapt and to utilize advances in research and technology. Boxing may not subscribe anymore to eating four raw eggs for breakfast, followed by monotonous roadwork in construction boots, a session at the gym and a dinner of steak and potatoes at night, but it's only step or two from that.

    “I’ll put my head on the line and say this," proclaims Park, "that quite frankly, I think in ten years time if the boxers, especially the Latin boxers, if they train like they do now, they're not going to last. Because just like any other sport, it's evolved to such a degree. I don't think there's any top athlete in the world today that's not doing weight training. Unfortunately, they still have this archaic thinking that weight training slows you down.

    “Well, it depends on how you do the weight training, number one. Number two, there's never been any physiological evidence that weight training slows you down. A perfect example is you look at the physique of a 100-meter runner, these guys in six months, they could enter a body-building competition. These guys are the fastest guys in the world with all that muscle. So there's no question that weight training can not only enhance your power, but enhance your speed. Because what it does in fact - if done correctly - is build white-fiber, which is your explosive fiber. And that's exactly what a boxer needs."

    Velocity Personal Training, which is located in West Los Angeles, has a diverse clientele that includes figures in the entertainment world and business professionals to plain ol' housewives. And it does have boxing experience.

    “We trained (Oscar) De La Hoya for nine fights, he was undefeated," Park said. "He went through some changes and he decided no longer to use our program. He then lost four fights. He didn't do any weight training, he changed everything. So I think the proof is in the pudding at the risk of sounding conceited." "

  • #2
    oh no, not the W word.

    anyways its always cool to read about others and how they train especially some one as succesfull as Morales.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by PunchDrunk
      http://www.maxboxing.com/Kim/Kim092006.asp

      Here's an excerpt of an article on Morales' training for his next fight with Pacman. Clearly, someone is trying to make Morales heavy and slow :
      "As for what exercises are utilized, Park says, "A little bit of everything," with plyometrics, core strengthening drills, running and the old boxing taboo - weight training.

      Which Park clarifies by explaining, "In terms of actual weight training, per se, I wouldn't say it's in the general terms that people know weight training, such as bench pressing or barbell squats, things of that nature. Because the object with Erik is not necessarily to put on mass but to get to his weight. So we didn't want to put on a lot of muscle because losing muscle is very, very difficult.

      “So it was matter of just keeping what he had, making sure that it was strong and even stronger."

      Morales worked with the Velocity team six days a week (his off-day being Sunday), switching between cardiovascular and interval running every other day, followed by a resting period where he would eat a meal and consume supplements, followed by a strength training workout, which took approximately an hour.

      Workouts such as these are common in the other major sports. But boxing has been painfully slow to adapt and to utilize advances in research and technology. Boxing may not subscribe anymore to eating four raw eggs for breakfast, followed by monotonous roadwork in construction boots, a session at the gym and a dinner of steak and potatoes at night, but it's only step or two from that.

      “I’ll put my head on the line and say this," proclaims Park, "that quite frankly, I think in ten years time if the boxers, especially the Latin boxers, if they train like they do now, they're not going to last. Because just like any other sport, it's evolved to such a degree. I don't think there's any top athlete in the world today that's not doing weight training. Unfortunately, they still have this archaic thinking that weight training slows you down.

      “Well, it depends on how you do the weight training, number one. Number two, there's never been any physiological evidence that weight training slows you down. A perfect example is you look at the physique of a 100-meter runner, these guys in six months, they could enter a body-building competition. These guys are the fastest guys in the world with all that muscle. So there's no question that weight training can not only enhance your power, but enhance your speed. Because what it does in fact - if done correctly - is build white-fiber, which is your explosive fiber. And that's exactly what a boxer needs."

      Velocity Personal Training, which is located in West Los Angeles, has a diverse clientele that includes figures in the entertainment world and business professionals to plain ol' housewives. And it does have boxing experience.

      “We trained (Oscar) De La Hoya for nine fights, he was undefeated," Park said. "He went through some changes and he decided no longer to use our program. He then lost four fights. He didn't do any weight training, he changed everything. So I think the proof is in the pudding at the risk of sounding conceited." "
      You, Bigdozer and myself have all stated the same things in the last weightlifting thread started by that meathead Potatoes. (or is it a potato head?) I have never heard such nonsense at least in the last ten years "refering to the opposing side of the issue" I urge young boxers to listen to experience talking. "typing" and not only train with weights for adding strength. But do it right and indeed you don't have to put on too much weight and or mass. Nice post Punch Drunk

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      • #4
        I weight train, most elite athletes weight train, some don't, some won't. Some people hate weight training because they don't know what to do, so instead of getting knowledge, they just hate.I no longer care, I'm no longer a personal trainer, so I could give a damn about anyone else fitness but my own. Basketball players lift, tennis players lift, hell even swimmers and golfers lift! Science may say it, but i've gone out in the field and tested it and proved it, so i'm good. I say to all people of the world,do u, whatever that is. I know there will less to talk about if nobody gives a hellafied damn about what someone else does, but i'm already there and I still have a bit to talk about(lol). I have had my haters on here, no need to mention names u know who u are, but just do u, don't worry about what another person thinks or does. They will know exactly what u do works when they are peeling themselves off the canvas. I do me and it works, do u, and just keep it movin, agree to disagree and keep it movin.

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        • #5
          Morales trains with weights? Wow! What a surprise!

          By the way, when Pacquiao knocked him out do you remember his excuse? Morales said he was wornout from trying to make weight. Imagine that? He pumps himself up then has to dehydrate himself to make weight. Now isn't that clever!

          These modern training methods sure are great!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by potatoes
            Morales trains with weights? Wow! What a surprise!

            By the way, when Pacquiao knocked him out do you remember his excuse? Morales said he was wornout from trying to make weight. Imagine that? He pumps himself up then has to dehydrate himself to make weight. Now isn't that clever!

            These modern training methods sure are great!
            THERE IS A REASON FIGHTERS "COMPETITIVE ONES" DON'T USE THOSE STONE AGE TRAINING ROUTINE. THEY DON'T WORK USING THOSE METHODS THEY ARE LEFT IN THE DARK AGES THEY FOUND THE METHODS IN. Morales' problem has more to do with the weight division he is fighting in and the way he choses to make weight. Training with weights the wrong way = bad for any sport. doing sport specific training using resistance such as weights = better athlete. period. You can qote as you love to do on historic fighters there methods of training and all of the nonsense you want. Progress is moving one direction you my friend have your head up you own ass trying to tell us how much better it smells in there.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by kingdosia
              you my friend have your head up you own ass trying to tell us how much better it smells in there.
              LMFAO. I am so using that line someday.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by kingdosia
                THERE IS A REASON FIGHTERS "COMPETITIVE ONES" DON'T USE THOSE STONE AGE TRAINING ROUTINE. THEY DON'T WORK USING THOSE METHODS THEY ARE LEFT IN THE DARK AGES THEY FOUND THE METHODS IN. Morales' problem has more to do with the weight division he is fighting in and the way he choses to make weight. Training with weights the wrong way = bad for any sport. doing sport specific training using resistance such as weights = better athlete. period. You can qote as you love to do on historic fighters there methods of training and all of the nonsense you want. Progress is moving one direction you my friend have your head up you own ass trying to tell us how much better it smells in there.


                Perhaps you should email your speech to evey boxer in the world. Since nearly all of them have to dehydrate to make weight, they must all be in the "DARK AGES." I am quite sure they will listen to a renowned authority like you!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by potatoes
                  Morales trains with weights? Wow! What a surprise!

                  By the way, when Pacquiao knocked him out do you remember his excuse? Morales said he was wornout from trying to make weight. Imagine that? He pumps himself up then has to dehydrate himself to make weight. Now isn't that clever!

                  These modern training methods sure are great!
                  Obviously you didn't READ THE ARTICLE!! If you did, then you'd know he's switched his training around from the old school guessing game, because THAT is why he had a problem making weight. This time, he doesn't want to have that problem, so he's using modern training methods, which include weight training.

                  And NO, he's not "pumping himself up." The mere fact that you say this says 2 things:

                  1. You didn't read the article, because you'd know better if you did.
                  2. You know NOTHING about weight training for boxers, since you equate weight training to pumping up!

                  Now go read the article, or stay the **** out of this thread. This is for people who take the time to actually read it!

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                  • #10
                    This guy is what I call a lifer, in his entire life he will never ever get a clue. He thinks what he thinks is right, who are we to disagree, what he believes is true to him. That is his reality. But new age techniques as include a more specific diet as well, working with dieticians as well as sports specific trainers. Let him believe what he believes, its his life no your nor mine(thank God for the latter).

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