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Originally posted by fraidycatI am learning this. I've only been going off what I know -- it's a pleasure having others on this board who aren't afraid of iron, to help guide me. Thank you.
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I was so out of shape when I started boxing, I figured that "in shape" meant "big muscles." But the more I worked on my bench and my curls and my seated military press -- and the leg sled, the more awkward my boxing became. I had to sit back and take a good, hard look at the muscles that I used boxing -- legs and back, mostly -- and the motions I needed to coordinate to box better. I decided on the squat, the full clean, and the deadlift, and have concentrated on these, alone. I haven't done a bicep curl or a bench press in months.
I made the mistake of assuming. I assumed that by building the physique of a boxer, I would get into boxing shape. Pro boxers, besides having very little bodyfat, generally have exaggerated delts and wide pecs, well-defined arms, and solid legs. I put together a routine to start building that kind of physique. It took me a couple of months to figure out how wrong this approach was; they didn't get that way by lifting weights. Their physiques are a byproduct of their training; almost an accident, compared to the care and calculation a bodybuilder puts in to his or her routine.
Unfortunately, most boxers -- including the trainers at my gym and most of the experts and so-called experts on boxing forums -- think that so much as touching a weight is anathema for a boxer. So there's a lot of misinformation being spread, and very little support for someone who wants to augment his/her boxing training with weightlifting. I can't stress enough the results I've gotten doing Olympic-style compound lifts.
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Originally posted by fraidycatI made the mistake of assuming. I assumed that by building the physique of a boxer, I would get into boxing shape. Pro boxers, besides having very little bodyfat, generally have exaggerated delts and wide pecs, well-defined arms, and solid legs. I put together a routine to start building that kind of physique. It took me a couple of months to figure out how wrong this approach was; they didn't get that way by lifting weights. Their physiques are a byproduct of their training; almost an accident, compared to the care and calculation a bodybuilder puts in to his or her routine.
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One warning: crank out five solid sets of cleans at a Bally's, and not only will you draw an appreciative crowd, but someone will come up and ask you for training advice before you're done catching your breath.
Nobody does cleans at my little yuppie gym. Nobody.
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fraidycat...thats an interesting point you said about benchpress and bicep curls. I used to be the same way. I was a high level soccer player and I trained body beautiful and I thought it made me better. Basically I realized the only way I'll improve my agility is by working on my first step and my footspeed...basically i did a lot of one leg plyo's and one leg squats. and it worked much better then just training without any purpose. I totally feel ya.
i do also partially agree with your take about the mystique of weight training. only way i differ is that i think you can get the same results by doing strictly explosive training (pushups, med ball training, plyos, situps, dips etc etc.)
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