What would be an ideal workout day for a small fighter?

[-EX-]

I am going to try and get a good workout like 5 or 6 times a day. I was wondering what would be a good workout plan for a small fighter.

Oh yeah and...

I am 5'5 and I weigh 105 pounds. My weight sometimes goes up to 108 but I haven't seen it go any higher than that.


Any help would be appreciated.

[Ringo]

What are you interested in, hoss? Weightlifting, cardio training, getting bigger, all of the above?

[-EX-]

I'm going to try out boxing. Share the knowledge. I think I should try getting bigger since I'm skinny.

[Ringo]

Alright, sounds good. Welcome to the world of boxing, then. For starters, you are like me. Smaller build guy who wants to put on some muscle before he starts throwing punches. Cool. For the "what to eat" section, check out my post on the What Foods To Eat And Not? Also Training. thread. Second, and this is important, NEVER train more than twice a day, AT MOST. If you DO train more than once, split up what you do. Example - do your cardio in the mornings, get a few meals and some rest, then lift some weights or something. If you want to get into boxing, the best thing to do is find a local gym (and if that fails, get some videos off of the internet). A real trainer can tell you face to face what you need to do, which is much more effective than us net **** preaching to you. Just start off building up your cardio. Run a mile for every other day for two weeks, then bump it to a mile and a half for one week, then two miles after that. Get a good cardio foundation and you can get introduced into a whole new world of conditioning with the heavy bag, jump rope, and mits. Good luck, man.

[-EX-]

Thanks a lot man. Why not train more than once a day?

[NJFighter91]

If you want to gain size and don't care about boxing performance, try Starting Strength. The book is $20 but I'll post the routine in a minute You'll gain lots of muscle on this program in 4-6 months. Also, eat ALOT. You say you never get past 108 so you're gonna need to eat a lot. Anything anything you can get your hands on until you're full. When you feel full, stuff some more food down your throat. Then repeat every 2 hours

[NJFighter91]

Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength Routine:

*note the dip/chin isnt in the original program

Here is a routine from Mark Rippetoe’s book called “Starting Strength”. You can buy the book at www.startingstrength.com. It includes endless useful info that all beginners should learn. But as for the program he suggests, his clients that he gives it to on AVERAGE gain 30-40 pounds in about 6 months or so which is amazing gains.

The program is as follows:

You alternate Workout A and Workout B every other day, 3 times a week. So you could either do Mon, Wed, Fri or Tues, Thurs. and Sat. Depending on what works best for you.

Example:

Week 1:

Monday - Workout A
Wednesday -Workout B
Friday - Workout A

Week 2:

Monday - Workout B
Wednesday - Workout A
Friday - Workout B

Etc.

For the actual workouts read below:

Note: This doesn’t include warm-up sets

**Means this is OPTIONAL**

Workout A
3x5 Squat
3x5 Bench Press
1x5 Deadlift
**2x8 Dips (if you cant do these or no assist machine then do Decline Dumbbell Bench Press with your hands Facing each other)

Workout B
3x5 Squat
3x5 Standing military press
3x5 Pendlay or Bent Rows (or power cleans)
**2x8 Chin-ups (recommended mainly if doing the cleans)

Assistance work:

Most people cant get it through there head that compound lifts also work your arms Plenty and always Insist on direct arm work. As quoted by Madcow2, “Don't **** with this. Every bodybuilder seems to have Attention Deficit Disorder and an overwhelming desire to customize everything.” If you are one of these people note that you have the option of doing the dips and chins which give PLENTY of arm work. Abdominal work is fine to do also if needed.

I recommend weighted decline sit-ups and/or Hanging Leg Raises at 2x8-10.

Weight:

As for the weight, make sure that you use the SAME weight throughout the sets. For example if I do the first set if Squats with 200lbs then I do the other 2 sets of squats with 200lbs.

Every week make it a goal to increase each of your lifts by 2.5%. Meaning if I lifted 100lbs for my Bench Week 1 then Week 2 I would try for 102.5lbs. If I did 200lb Squats Week 1 I would try for 205lbs in Week 2. Sometimes you will be able to do more but don’t mess with your form just to lift more.

Warm-up Sets:

Before all your working sets it is best to do a few warm-up sets. Specifically for your first lift. You don’t have to do the whole thing for the other lifts but definitely the first.

What you do is you ramp your weight up to your working sets.

For example:

2x5xbar (sets x reps x weight)
1x5x85
1x3x125
1x2x155

And the working set weight would be 175.

If you are lifting your working sets under 150 I would cut out the 3rd warmup set of 1x5 because it wont be needed.

The Lifts:

**Used references and quotes from Madcow2 and Bodybuilding.com**

Barbell Squat: These should be full range Olympic style squats. Use the full range of your body - that means as low as you can go which for almost everyone is past parallel. If the top of your thighs aren't at least parallel it's for ****. If you think this is bad for your knees going low, you and whoever told you that are relying on an old wives tale. Anyone who knows the human body will tell you that below parallel is MUCH safer on the knees whereas parallel and above put all the sheer right on them and doesn’t allow proper transfer of the load to the rest of your body (this is how your body was designed).

Rest a barbell on the upper portion of your back, not your neck. Firmly grip the bar with your hands almost twice your shoulder width apart. Position your feet about shoulder width apart and your toes should be pointing just a little outward with your knees in the same direction. Keep your back as straight as possible and your chin up, bend your knees and slowly lower your hips straight down until your THIGHS ARE AT LEAST PARALLEL TO THE FLOOR. Once you reach the bottom position, press the weight up back to the starting position.

Video: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/2003/barbellsquat.wvx

To be honest ATG (Ass to the Grass) squats work the best IMO. What you do is you go ALL the way down until your hamstrings touch your calves and keep the same Olympic squat form.

Barbell Deadlift: Each rep is deweighted fully on the floor. No touch and go. This is called the 'dead'lift because the weight is 'dead' on the ground. You can touch and go warm ups but that's it.

This is a very complicated exercise so here is bodybuilding.com’s detailed instructions on this lift.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exer...rbell+Deadlift

Video: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/2003...ontofknees.wvx

Flat Barbell Bench Press: Lie on a flat bench and firmly position your feet flat on the floor a little more than shoulder width apart. Keep your back flat on the bench! Using a grip broader than shoulder width, hold the barbell above your body, then lower slowly to the middle of your chest. Without bouncing the weight off your chest, drive the barbell up over the middle of your chest until your arms are straight and your elbows are locked. Lower the bar down slowly.

Video: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/2003...essideview.wvx

Standing Barbell Military Press: Standing overhead presses. Supporting weight overhead is a fundamental exercise and stimulates the whole body.
Raise barbell to your chest with your hands shoulder width apart. Lock your legs and hips. Keep your elbows in, slightly under your bar. Press bar to arm's length overhead. Lower to your upper chest or chin (depending on what is comfortable).

Bent Barbell Row: Raise barbell to your chest with your hands shoulder width apart. Lock your legs and hips. Keep your elbows in, slightly under your bar. Press bar to arm's length overhead. Lower to your upper chest or chin (depending on what is comfortable).

Video: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/2003...barbellrow.wvx

You could also do Pendlay Rows which IMO are also better. This illustration below is a great demonstration for them (thanks for the pic Kethnaab!) :
http://www.forum.bodybuilding.com/at...7&d=1140759947

Power Clean: This is also a very complicated exercise so here is bodybuilding.com’s detailed instructions on this lift.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exer...me=Power+Clean

Video: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/vide...powerclean.wvx

Chin-Up: Hold the chin-up bar with a supinated grip (palms facing you) with your hands about 6 to 8 inches apart. Pull yourself up and try to touch either your chin or upper chest to the bar. Return slowly to the starting position. Do NOT swing back and forth! Using this grip works more of your biceps than your back or lats.

Video: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/videos/2006/chinup.wvx

Dip: Using the parallel bars, grip the handles and push yourself up to your starting position. With elbows close to body and hips straight, lower body until shoulders are slightly stretched. Push body up in same posture and repeat. You can bend and cross your legs or keep them straight.

Video: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/vide...estversion.wvx

The Diet:

If you are bulking, which is what people usually do on this program, you need to be eating like there is no tomorrow. 3000-4000 calories a day. Make sure you get 1 to 2 x your bodyweight in protein (in grams) and more than that in carbs. Mark Rippetoe also suggests that you drink up to a gallon of milk a day and plenty of water.

Your bulk could be clean but its hard to do so. I suggest just going all out and getting any protein you can get your hands on. For example lean grilled chicken and egg whites is best but if you want to gain that muscle fast then ground beef, steaks, whole eggs, cheeses etc is great. Eat a lot of oats, pasta, wheat bread, yogurt, cottage cheese, tuna, etc.

Make sure you get a huge breakfast. Mark recommends 4 huge meals a day with breakfast being the largest. Make sure all your meals have plenty of both carbs and protein! Also look into getting a PWO shake for post workout to get some carbs DIRECTLY into your system when your done lifting. Then an hour later eat a meal. Its also good to eat a snack before bed. Just remember to get big you need to eat big because eating is 90% of your muscle gains.

That's all the info.

[PunchDrunk]

5 or 6 times a day??? That's just ridiculous, no one can do that. No one needs to do that. Forget it.

If you are serious about wanting to fight, forget about putting on weight! It's not something that will make you a better fighter, and deep down inside most of you already know (at least you should). It's just that you want to stroke your ego. Guess what, getting into fighting shape, and winning fights will be a way bigger ego boost, than putting on a few pounds of muscle. Weights are fine, but bodybuilding's out the window.

And forget about "the ideal workout." There is no such thing. A beginner needs to train differently than an international level amateur, or a rookie pro, or Mayweather. Everyone needs to train in a different way, and this changes all the time, depending on your development.

The best advice for your question (and everyone else who's asked or is going to ask a similar question) is JOIN A GYM!! They'll tell you what to do, problem solved.

These broad questions are pointless really. training isn't something you can make one post about, and expect to understand from a few answers. Little specific things can be discussed and clarified, but these "I don't have a clue, tell me everything from scratch" threads are getting us nowhere. Read a little, JOIN A GYM, get the basics down (1% in here know just a little bit about what they're talking about really), and THEN ask more specific questions. It'll be a better board for everybody...

[Kayo]

Well at your size...i'd suggest eating

But on a serious note start out with the basics with running, skipping, swimming, push ups, sit ups, chin ups and pull ups. I wouldnt Suggest hitting a heavy bag or speed bag until you go to a gym and learn how to do it properly because you can learn bad habbits.

[NJFighter91]

PunchDrunk, everything you said is correct but he said he wants to try out boxing and his main goal is to gain weight. So we just infered that he isn't that serious about fighting and just wants to gain some weight.

Otherwise, you made a really good point.