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  • PRINCEKOOL
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    #11
    Well you may have overloaded your training and recovery. 'Seems like this situation is tendons/ligament related' Muscle recovers faster than tendons/ligaments, but Tendon's and Ligaments have a faster cell turnover than bone. I.E every body part has different rates of recovery/healing factor like Wolverine 'And of course everybody is different'.

    You could look into taking some MSM ether in powered form or put some form of cream on your shoulder. Otherwise it just seems like you may have jumped in the deep end with your training too quickly 'Your muscles have probably adapted to your regime, but your tendons & ligaments are not yet accustomed to this new environment they are experiencing'.

    This is why inexperienced power lifters can suddenly get injuries, they think because they can lift a weight 'Now it is time to progress to the next level' because their tendons and ligaments have not been strengthen enough or adapted 'Bad things can happen.

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      #12
      One more thing that’s worth noting. I’ve had three training based injuries, all of them related to my calf or foot. Usually your body lets your know to chill out and it’s our own stubborn ideals that get us, that’s how injury got me.

      I had a tendon pop while skipping rope for a really long time in cold weather without being super hydrated. It was at the end of 12 3 minute rounds, on the 2nd to last round😬 I heard a pop. Before the pop, for several minutes, I felt an overall dull ache in the spot that popped . The body is funny like that , it will warn you and it’s my stubborn human nature that will cause injury aka (I’ll just work thru it and it’ll get better). The same tendon I popped while running, at the end of a 2 mile run , when I kicked it up to a sprint at the finish - pop!! I felt the same pop. Felt like a pellet rifle shooting your calf.

      And so the third injury my body gave me several days warning cause that foot was aching, was due to jumping rope once again, this time I was doing lots of double unders on 3/4 inch rubber mats on top of concrete. If I had a wood floor it’d never have happened, but on the 15th or 16th rep I heard a pop. This was last April. When it happened I was out for months, and I came here first and I’m posting this so you aren’t in those shoes 👞

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      • Eastbound
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        #13
        Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
        Well you may have overloaded your training and recovery. 'Seems like this situation is tendons/ligament related' Muscle recovers faster than tendons/ligaments, but Tendon's and Ligaments have a faster cell turnover than bone. I.E every body part has different rates of recovery/healing factor like Wolverine 'And of course everybody is different'.

        You could look into taking some MSM ether in powered form or put some form of cream on your shoulder. Otherwise it just seems like you may have jumped in the deep end with your training too quickly 'Your muscles have probably adapted to your regime, but your tendons & ligaments are not yet accustomed to this new environment they are experiencing'.

        This is why inexperienced power lifters can suddenly get injuries, they think because they can lift a weight 'Now it is time to progress to the next level' because their tendons and ligaments have not been strengthen enough or adapted 'Bad things can happen.
        these guys are right, your tendons and ligaments will take longer to condition and may be prone to injury until that happens.

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        • cv808
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          #14
          Originally posted by Warrior Scholar
          I respect stuff based on life experiences, experiences that we don’t always choose. Sometimes it feels like the cards are already dealt. For instance, let me ask you, what happened in your life that made you ultimately respect boxing?
          Usually, I wouldn't jump in and digress from the main topic, but I agree with Rockin'. We chose boxing. That's why we continue it. The biggest difference is while you choose boxing, you also choose to train outside of boxing as well. In that respect, you may find yourself one day weaving more towards MMA (nothing wrong with that either), while someone like Rockin' is 100% boxing oriented (nothing wrong with that as well). A better way too have put what you meant to say is, everyone has different preferences on how they view boxing.

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          • greynotsoold
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            #15
            Originally posted by CiganoBoxer
            Hello guys , anyone get like a dull ache inside the shoulder after continued day in day out heavy bag work ?
            Recently had pilled on a a couple of stone so got back In to my running/cadio and bag work ,I usually jump on the heavy bag 3 times a week for 4 rounds after I've ran a 5 miler on a treadmill,im running 5 days a week weight down by near 3 st since Christmas ,so more than happy , just been suffering lately with this poxy dull ache in my shoulder cap...its more annoying than painful ....im 45 so no spring chicken , but never had this type of ache before even
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            Without seeing you, my guess is that you are lifting your elbows too soon. And, most likely, you punch from the top down instead of from the floor up. When you throw a right hand, for example, and you start the punch by lifting your elbow, you break the line of the body. When you are swinging the punch too, then the first place for the stress to settle is in your shoulder.

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            • Warrior Scholar
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              #16
              Originally posted by cv808
              Usually, I wouldn't jump in and digress from the main topic, but I agree with Rockin'. We chose boxing. That's why we continue it. The biggest difference is while you choose boxing, you also choose to train outside of boxing as well. In that respect, you may find yourself one day weaving more towards MMA (nothing wrong with that either), while someone like Rockin' is 100% boxing oriented (nothing wrong with that as well). A better way too have put what you meant to say is, everyone has different preferences on how they view boxing.
              We make choices like that based on respect. For instance, what made you respect Boxing? For me, I saw it transcend racism at a young age. There exists a universal respect for boxing skill that is independent of creed. Any person of any race good with the hands inside the ring has a universal respect worldwide.

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              • OctoberRed
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                #17
                I can usually get rid of those pains with items like Icey Hot

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                • EDD1
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                  #18
                  2 things regarding shoulder injuries:

                  1- If you're new at boxing or have done it in the past and are returning to the gym, you have to lear to warm up the shoulder, as we get older were more prone to impingement of the shoulder, that is where your tendons get strained, inflamed or you can get tears.
                  If you do stretches and warm up and gradually work towards heavy hitting it should help. Also if you do have impingement, it is also an inflammation, so if you don't let it heal and continue without proper care, you can hurt yourself to the point that you will have a hard time working, getting up, grabbing stuff that is over 5 pounds and it can really cause a big disruption in your life.

                  2- if you have been hitting the heavy bag hard, you may be just sore and should let it heal, if it's a "dull Ache" as you mentioned and not a stinging "needle like" pain, I would caution against hitting the heavy bag hard unless you have a pro type large bag, or a water filled tearbag, anything else you are asking for injury.

                  I'm 41 and I have to warm up with lots of stretches and shadow boxing, which I recommend if you are trying to lose weight.

                  Here is a link to these two funny physical therapists, I recommend these guys to everyone:

                  https://********/hPlmEFOeK0s

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                  • Warrior Scholar
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by EDD1
                    2 things regarding shoulder injuries:

                    1- If you're new at boxing or have done it in the past and are returning to the gym, you have to lear to warm up the shoulder, as we get older were more prone to impingement of the shoulder, that is where your tendons get strained, inflamed or you can get tears.
                    If you do stretches and warm up and gradually work towards heavy hitting it should help. Also if you do have impingement, it is also an inflammation, so if you don't let it heal and continue without proper care, you can hurt yourself to the point that you will have a hard time working, getting up, grabbing stuff that is over 5 pounds and it can really cause a big disruption in your life.

                    2- if you have been hitting the heavy bag hard, you may be just sore and should let it heal, if it's a "dull Ache" as you mentioned and not a stinging "needle like" pain, I would caution against hitting the heavy bag hard unless you have a pro type large bag, or a water filled tearbag, anything else you are asking for injury.

                    I'm 41 and I have to warm up with lots of stretches and shadow boxing, which I recommend if you are trying to lose weight.

                    Here is a link to these two funny physical therapists, I recommend these guys to everyone:

                    https://********/hPlmEFOeK0s
                    Those guys are a trip, I came across them dealing with a finger numbing issue I had last year.
                    This dude's video is ultimately what fixed it

                    he's not a boxer but has some good knowledge.

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                    • EDD1
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Warrior Scholar
                      Those guys are a trip, I came across them dealing with a finger numbing issue I had last year.
                      This dude's video is ultimately what fixed it

                      he's not a boxer but has some good knowledge.
                      Bro, I will take any resources for helping my shoulders , as I have gotten older I need to stay on top of it because I have had very difficult moments when I'm hurting,,, thank you for the link, it was very good information

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