Chin ups/ pull ups?

[Mr.MojoRisin']

25 reps per day is 175 per week; Dorian Yates built his back on one weekly back workout consisting of roughly 80 reps--some of them warmups. And that covered everything from lower back to lats to rear delts. He did train traps on another day; if you wish to add that (two sets of dumbbell shugs--one warmup and one to failure) to the workout--Yates trained his back with roughly 100 reps per week.

Result: https://********/rQAe2m91E64

Yates lifted weights. It's different with calisthenics. That's why a fighter like Ron Lyle was able to do something like 1000 push ups a day in prison.

[GelfSara]

Yates lifted weights. It's different with calisthenics. That's why a fighter like Ron Lyle was able to do something like 1000 push ups a day in prison.

The human body, believe it or not, has weight, and even if heavier loads are more efficient (time-wise) in terms of producing size gains, loads as low as 30%* of one repetition maximum (1RM) are sufficient to produce optimal responses in terms of hypertrophy when sets are taken to failure.

I've yet to meet a person for whom a pull-up did not exceed 30% of 1RM; such a person--if he weighed 150lbs--would be capable of doing a single pull-up with more than 350lbs hanging from his body.

*Mitchell, CJ et al. (2012, April 19). Resistance exercise load does not determine training-mediated hypertrophic gains in young men. Journal of Applied Physiology.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3404827/

[Mr.MojoRisin']

The human body, believe it or not, has weight, and even if heavier loads are more efficient (time-wise) in terms of producing size gains, loads as low as 30%* of one repetition maximum (1RM) are sufficient to produce optimal responses in terms of hypertrophy when sets are taken to failure.

I've yet to meet a person for whom a pull-up did not exceed 30% of 1RM; such a person--if he weighed 150lbs--would be capable of doing a single pull-up with more than 350lbs hanging from his body.

*Mitchell, CJ et al. (2012, April 19). Resistance exercise load does not determine training-mediated hypertrophic gains in young men. Journal of Applied Physiology.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3404827/

You have absolutely no experience to back up your claims. Anyone that does calisthenics seriously will tell you that the amount of reps they can do on a given set increases moderately fast. In the course of a month I took my 10 rep pull up set and was able to do as many as 25 without a break.

If you had any idea of what you're talking about you'd understand that increase in muscle mass comes from diet not training routine. All training does is break down the muscle. You could do literally 3 rep sets of deadlifts, squats, and bench press and achieve hypertrophy. However I don't recommend that for anyone. You could also do 20 rep sets of calisthenics and achieve hypertrophy. It all comes down to the individual. Building mass isn't a one size fits all topic.

The original claim was that because Dorian Yates did 80 reps in a back workout comprised of weight lifting and multiple exercises which stimulated the muscle from different angles, that doing 175 pull ups per week. If an individual can do 20 pull ups in one set then 25 pull ups per day will do nothing for them. It isn't stimulating the muscle enough to adapt and grow stronger.

You haven't the faintest idea about anything related to weight lifting or boxing. Stop arguing with people on here and try to learn something.

[Boxfan83]

Sit-ups, pull-ups, and a 3 mile run.
These are the things that I do for fun.

34years old:
20 pull-ups,
100 crunches (less than 2 mins.)
23:30 3mile Run.

240pts!

Sill a USMC first class PFT.

[OctoberRed]

Sit-ups, pull-ups, and a 3 mile run.
These are the things that I do for fun.

34years old:
20 pull-ups,
100 crunches (less than 2 mins.)
23:30 3mile Run.

240pts!

Sill a USMC first class PFT.

How often per week?

[GelfSara]

You have absolutely no experience to back up your claims. Anyone that does calisthenics seriously will tell you that the amount of reps they can do on a given set increases moderately fast. In the course of a month I took my 10 rep pull up set and was able to do as many as 25 without a break.

If you had any idea of what you're talking about you'd understand that increase in muscle mass comes from diet not training routine. All training does is break down the muscle. You could do literally 3 rep sets of deadlifts, squats, and bench press and achieve hypertrophy. However I don't recommend that for anyone. You could also do 20 rep sets of calisthenics and achieve hypertrophy. It all comes down to the individual. Building mass isn't a one size fits all topic.

The original claim was that because Dorian Yates did 80 reps in a back workout comprised of weight lifting and multiple exercises which stimulated the muscle from different angles, that doing 175 pull ups per week. If an individual can do 20 pull ups in one set then 25 pull ups per day will do nothing for them. It isn't stimulating the muscle enough to adapt and grow stronger.

You haven't the faintest idea about anything related to weight lifting or boxing. Stop arguing with people on here and try to learn something.

Thank you for amusing me. Please continue.
Human biodiversity continues to astound me.

[Mr.MojoRisin']

Human biodiversity continues to astound me.

I'm entirely certain that's not all that does.