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  • Coyote142
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    #11
    Originally posted by tcbender
    Yeah I mean certain people don't want to spar like that and being able to control your power in sparring is something that is sort of learned. You also should try not to get mad when you get tagged, think "Why did I get tagged?" let it wake you up on defense and movement rather than just trying to get them back.

    Also the reason for sparring isn't to take the other guy out, it's to sharpen skills and learn. I don't mind taking a big hit in sparring, but a lot of people don't want to spar like that for safety or personal preference.

    Seems like all the newer guys I spar have issues with controlling their power. Some of the older guys lash out when they get tagged though.

    Best of luck.
    Yup I hear exactly what you are saying. The thing is the other guy was going hard too. I can control my power but I can't get inside and throw a hook or two and land it it, but at the same time throw it soft. Furthermore, IF i do land a hard shot, all you have to do is stop me and tell me to chill and I immediately go into a more passive mode. I am an inside fighter, I have to jab to get close, or I cover up and get inside and then throw hooks and uppercuts. I don't think most gyms teach that style which is why I like the club I'm at.

    Here is my question. How do you think Mike Tyson sparred? Or Joe Frazier? OR Rocky Marciano? How do you reach your ultimate potential if you are holding back when you spar? I take lots of good shots from people, but when i hit back maybe I naturally hit harder? I do NOT want to hurt my sparing partner or anyone for that matter unless they are competing with me. When I compete, im going in there to knock the guys head off though.
    Last edited by Coyote142; 05-25-2018, 07:16 AM.

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    • Coyote142
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      That's about how hard I go when I spar. When I land my left hook in close I guess I am throwing it wide and it looks like im trying to hurt someone, but Im really just trying to learn how to land it in close.
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        #13
        Originally posted by Coyote142
        Yup I hear exactly what you are saying. The thing is the other guy was going hard too. I can control my power but I can't get inside and throw a hook or two and land it it, but at the same time throw it soft. Furthermore, IF i do land a hard shot, all you have to do is stop me and tell me to chill and I immediately go into a more passive mode. I am an inside fighter, I have to jab to get close, or I cover up and get inside and then throw hooks and uppercuts. I don't think most gyms teach that style which is why I like the club I'm at.

        Here is my question. How do you think Mike Tyson sparred? Or Joe Frazier? OR Rocky Marciano? How do you reach your ultimate potential if you are holding back when you spar? I take lots of good shots from people, but when i hit back maybe I naturally hit harder? I do NOT want to hurt my sparing partner or anyone for that matter unless they are competing with me. When I compete, im going in there to knock the guys head off though.
        Yeah its definitely tough when the other guy is throwing hard too. Some of that may be because he is trying to match your power/intensity, but coaches worry that it will keep escalating.

        I found some issues with trying to pull punches at first. I was sparring a newer guy and would try to not throw as hard/fast and kept getting hit with these wide looping hooks he was throwing. It took some time to be able to throw with speed and not as much power (as well as getting my hand back to my face when not throwing as fast/hard).

        I can't really speak on how Mike Tyson sparred, but unless you are a pro then I probably wouldn't spar how he did. If you really want to get in there and **** find someone that wants to throw with you and enjoys that. I found a really skilled southpaw at my gym and we at a higher intensity than with any other person I spar. Mainly because we have similar skill levels and enjoy sparring like that, but when I spar other guys I turn it down.

        Try to get in there and try out some new techniques work on defense and keep it light with the other guys. Not good to be eating too many unnecessary shots whether in sparring or in a fight.

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          #14
          Originally posted by tcbender
          Yeah its definitely tough when the other guy is throwing hard too. Some of that may be because he is trying to match your power/intensity, but coaches worry that it will keep escalating.

          I found some issues with trying to pull punches at first. I was sparring a newer guy and would try to not throw as hard/fast and kept getting hit with these wide looping hooks he was throwing. It took some time to be able to throw with speed and not as much power (as well as getting my hand back to my face when not throwing as fast/hard).

          I can't really speak on how Mike Tyson sparred, but unless you are a pro then I probably wouldn't spar how he did. If you really want to get in there and **** find someone that wants to throw with you and enjoys that. I found a really skilled southpaw at my gym and we at a higher intensity than with any other person I spar. Mainly because we have similar skill levels and enjoy sparring like that, but when I spar other guys I turn it down.

          Try to get in there and try out some new techniques work on defense and keep it light with the other guys. Not good to be eating too many unnecessary shots whether in sparring or in a fight.
          I appreciate your response!

          I don't care to **** like that or take shots, its not about me wanting to do something violent to my sparring partners. It's about me wanting to be good at boxing.

          When I am throwing my left hook (and sometimes right to the body), I am consciously thinking, OK I need to get close and throw my hooks with elbow at a 90 degree like my coach says. When I get inside I am getting tagged, I keep getting closer and I am blocking punches. THen I feint or I slip and I throw my left hook, which tends to land hard every time whether I mean too or not. I don't feel like Im throwing wide looping punches, to me it feels crisp and short, and they are landing. Maybe I am subconsciously extending my arm in order to get range instead of moving my body closer. I guess I need to see a video of myself....
          Last edited by Coyote142; 05-25-2018, 08:07 AM.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Coyote142
            I appreciate your response!

            I don't care to **** like that or take shots, its not about me wanting to do something violent to my sparring partners. It's about me wanting to be good at boxing.

            When I am throwing my left hook (and sometimes right to the body), I am consciously thinking, OK I need to get close and throw my hooks with elbow at a 90 degree like my coach says. When I get inside I am getting tagged, I keep getting closer and I am blocking punches. THen I feint or I slip and I throw my left hook, which tends to land hard every time whether I mean too or not. I don't feel like Im throwing wide looping punches, to me it feels crisp and short, and they are landing. Maybe I am subconsciously extending my arm in order to get range instead of moving my body closer. I guess I need to see a video of myself....
            No problem man.
            To be clear, I wasn't meaning to compare you to the dude throwing the looping punches at me.

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              #16
              Originally posted by tcbender
              No problem man.
              To be clear, I wasn't meaning to compare you to the dude throwing the looping punches at me.
              Oh I know. But I have had my coach tell me I am doing that. I'm really not new though, It's just how I fight. I throw straight punches and jabs too, and I feint, I try everything and I'm always open to criticism and listening to advice. Ive just found that my left hook is fast and I can land it when i slip so I like to practice that particular move

              Here is a video of mike tyson sparring when he was 15.



              I would be willing to bet money that a lot of the all time greats sparred hard and aggressive from the get go, and it was probably instrumental into developing them into the fighters they were.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Coyote142
                Oh I know. But I have had my coach tell me I am doing that. I'm really not new though, It's just how I fight. I throw straight punches and jabs too, and I feint, I try everything and I'm always open to criticism and listening to advice. Ive just found that my left hook is fast and I can land it when i slip so I like to practice that particular move

                Here is a video of mike tyson sparring when he was 15.



                I would be willing to bet money that a lot of the all time greats sparred hard and aggressive from the get go, and it was probably instrumental into developing them into the fighters they were.
                Even at 15 he looks like a man child.

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                • STREET CLEANER
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                  #18
                  It is is better to be exposed to many technics than just rely in one. That way you have many tools that you can use when adjusting in a fight.

                  Also some trainers will try to make you a fighter you cannot be. At one point they have to adjust a bit to your most effective style.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by STREET CLEANER
                    It is is better to be exposed to many technics than just rely in one. That way you have many tools that you can use when adjusting in a fight.

                    Also some trainers will try to make you a fighter you cannot be. At one point they have to adjust a bit to your most effective style.
                    ^^^^ This right here. Totally agree.

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