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  • AddiX
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    #11
    If you have rotator cuff problems your days of using heavy bags is probably mostly over unfortunately.

    Everyone I know who had cuff injuries never fully healed, and you can't box without your cuffs being healthy.

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    • HedonisticFrog
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      #12
      Originally posted by AddiX
      If you have rotator cuff problems your days of using heavy bags is probably mostly over unfortunately.

      Everyone I know who had cuff injuries never fully healed, and you can't box without your cuffs being healthy.
      If it's severe enough maybe. I've strained both of my rotator cuffs multiple times and it doesn't hinder me at all with boxing or lifting weights. You just have to rehab them well if it's minor enough to not need surgery.

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      • AddiX
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        #13
        Originally posted by HedonisticFrog
        If it's severe enough maybe. I've strained both of my rotator cuffs multiple times and it doesn't hinder me at all with boxing or lifting weights. You just have to rehab them well if it's minor enough to not need surgery.
        Yeah I'm talking about people with torn cuff, or if they actually chipped the cuff.

        I dunno about people with a really minor shoulder injury. But everything me I knew who played sports or boxed who had legit shoulder injuries never boxed, played sports, or lifted again, the same as before.

        From what I heard it's mostly recommended to do pull exercises to rehab cuff injuries, which is the opposite of boxing.

        I think boxing strengthened my shoulder ligaments and cuffs a lot. The only way to build ligaments and joints Imo is crazy high repetitious movements, and now that I lift weights I've never had any injuries, shoulders are my strongest lift. Never have any pains either.

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        • bngsdad
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          #14
          Same thing happened to me but as soon I felt it, I immediately approached a doctor. It was my rotator cuff. I just have to do some exercises for it to be warmed up before training. The best I think is the one where you use a 10lb dumbbell and you just let it swing in both circular motions while your upper body is almost parallel to the ground.

          Try not using a right hook. That also worked for me

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          • Mr.MojoRisin'
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            #15
            Originally posted by McNulty
            You need to see an orthopedic surgeon that specializes in sports medicine.
            Lmao.







            .....

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            • HedonisticFrog
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              #16
              Originally posted by AddiX
              Yeah I'm talking about people with torn cuff, or if they actually chipped the cuff.

              I dunno about people with a really minor shoulder injury. But everything me I knew who played sports or boxed who had legit shoulder injuries never boxed, played sports, or lifted again, the same as before.

              From what I heard it's mostly recommended to do pull exercises to rehab cuff injuries, which is the opposite of boxing.

              I think boxing strengthened my shoulder ligaments and cuffs a lot. The only way to build ligaments and joints Imo is crazy high repetitious movements, and now that I lift weights I've never had any injuries, shoulders are my strongest lift. Never have any pains either.
              Pull exercises are probably recommended because it moves the rotator cuff through full range of motion while not putting a lot of strain on it. When you rehab injuries you want to go really light at first and then slowly move up in weight while doing high reps. I just did light bench press for high reps at a weight just below where it hurt until I was back to my normal weights. Bench press is still one of my strong points as well.

              Boxing definitely strengthens your shoulders. You need a lot of shoulder strength and stability to transfer body weight momentum through your arm and fist. That's why it's important to have upper body strength to hit hard.

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              • AddiX
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                #17
                Originally posted by HedonisticFrog
                Pull exercises are probably recommended because it moves the rotator cuff through full range of motion while not putting a lot of strain on it. When you rehab injuries you want to go really light at first and then slowly move up in weight while doing high reps. I just did light bench press for high reps at a weight just below where it hurt until I was back to my normal weights. Bench press is still one of my strong points as well.

                Boxing definitely strengthens your shoulders. You need a lot of shoulder strength and stability to transfer body weight momentum through your arm and fist. That's why it's important to have upper body strength to hit hard.
                I respect your opinion but I completely disagree with upper body strength has much to do with punching power.

                I think it's all natural leverage, core strength, natural fast twitch muscles, and leg strength.

                I've never really seen anyone build upper body strength and see it translate to boxing power, never once.

                Def agree that shoulder strength helps bench press though. I didn't even know h to bench press for the longest time, and I was using all shoulders reaping 225, I'm not even a big dude. Didn't even realize I was benching wrong until I started power lifting, and than focused the weight more on my back and chest.
                Last edited by AddiX; 03-05-2018, 01:37 AM.

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                • OctoberRed
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by AddiX
                  I respect your opinion but I completely disagree with upper body strength has much to do with punching power.

                  I think it's all natural leverage, core strength, natural fast twitch muscles, and leg strength.

                  I've never really seen anyone build upper body strength and see it translate to boxing power, never once.

                  Def agree that shoulder strength helps bench press though. I didn't even know h to bench press for the longest time, and I was using all shoulders reaping 225, I'm not even a big dude. Didn't even realize I was benching wrong until I started power lifting, and than focused the weight more on my back and chest.
                  Oh yeah, what about this guy?

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                  • AddiX
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by OctoberRed
                    Oh yeah, what about this guy?

                    What aboUt him? I don't even know who he is...

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                    • .!WAR MIKEY!.
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                      #20
                      you never had power.

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