Any help or advice greatly appreciated

[PsychoPat]

Hi so Im 24 years old boxing has been my passion since 2006 it's my only interest in sport I have trained and boxed as an amatuer from 14 -17 then it stopped. No fault of my own I had to leave home get my own place go college while maintaining my own place overwhelmed me never had much family support bit of a lone ranger left the care system. Now fast forward to today I still love boxing watching reading researching you name it. My one problem is I no longer box or train anywhere near as much as i need to now iv had a few psychiatric issues been prescribed serequel for psychosis/depression been like this for two years out of work also its getting to me I live in a different area no affilations down here and im stuck in life no motivation anymore I often wonder what life could be then I feel gutted im wasting my youth at 24 im a shell of the man I was. Can anyone offer advice no matter how small of how i can get back into boxing get off these meds and back to a normal life whatever that is. I dont use Facebook any of that ****e but boxing s been a big part of my life and I know this is the place for boxing fans such as myself

[OctoberRed]

What are you looking to do? Just train? Go back to doing amateur fights?

[PsychoPat]

What are you looking to do? Just train? Go back to doing amateur fights?

Id love to get back into training and fighting white collar/ semi pro throughout life I've used training to get my head together if that makes sense its my outlet for frustration on top of that I feel so unhealthy at the moment I tend to be self defeatist and wonder if it's worth it or if I can regain my drive and determination 90% of my problems are mental the tablets im on give me a permanent brain fog and I fear my brain chemistry has been irreparably altered after two years on antipsychotics

[Eff Pandas]

Man when I used to train all the time and wanted to try boxing my mom wanted to move to the f#cking upper peninsula of Michigan. There wasn't sh^t going on up there so I just saved up and made my own gym in this tiny lil basement in this tiny lil cottage. Remember I could only work out at certain times cuz hitting the heavy bag would damn near shake the house my mom would say. But yeah if there is legit nothing around do what you can to create whatever gym you can create with the resources you got. Getting fights and sparring is obviously a whole other higher level of a problem, but maybe you can find someone who's interested in boxing too around there. A coach/trainer might be the most difficult angle and I imagine that's a longshot, but send out some feelers just in case. Could have some retired fighter looking for something to do wherever you're at.

As to the drugs I'm highly anti-pills and will avoid them at all costs for non-drug options, but then again I haven't had the issues mentally like you are saying you have. I think it's probably less helpful for you to stop taking your medicine. I'd talk to the doctor about options and other lesser negatively impactful products if they exist or work for you.

And there might even be alternative treatments for your issue beyond drugs or treatments that you can use with the drug that would be more helpful, but I'd tread extremely lightly with playing around with your prescription for something like this

And hell there are always advancements with pills so while this pill makes you feel off maybe the next pill that'll be out 6mos or 1yr from now won't impact you as negatively.

[PsychoPat]

Man when I used to train all the time and wanted to try boxing my mom wanted to move to the f#cking upper peninsula of Michigan. There wasn't sh^t going on up there so I just saved up and made my own gym in this tiny lil basement in this tiny lil cottage. Remember I could only work out at certain times cuz hitting the heavy bag would damn near shake the house my mom would say. But yeah if there is legit nothing around do what you can to create whatever gym you can create with the resources you got. Getting fights and sparring is obviously a whole other higher level of a problem, but maybe you can find someone who's interested in boxing too around there. A coach/trainer might be the most difficult angle and I imagine that's a longshot, but send out some feelers just in case. Could have some retired fighter looking for something to do wherever you're at.

As to the drugs I'm highly anti-pills and will avoid them at all costs for non-drug options, but then again I haven't had the issues mentally like you are saying you have. I think it's probably less helpful for you to stop taking your medicine. I'd talk to the doctor about options and other lesser negatively impactful products if they exist or work for you.

And there might even be alternative treatments for your issue beyond drugs or treatments that you can use with the drug that would be more helpful, but I'd tread extremely lightly with playing around with your prescription for something like this

And hell there are always advancements with pills so while this pill makes you feel off maybe the next pill that'll be out 6mos or 1yr from now won't impact you as negatively.

Cant thank you enough for the lengthy and helpful response I too have moved from an area I was very familiar comfortable with this started my anxietys and depression I lost my strength and foundations that my foster parents helped build I dont have hardly any social interaction with people I've self diagnosed social anxiety. Now the training at home I do general circuit training burpees situps push ups shadowbox. I lack the confidence these days to train with other people its pathetic I never cared about what people s perceptions of me used to be now I feel weird like people are staring at me and ridiculing or laughing at me just walking down the street. I overthink a simple thing like how I walk and now I walk funny. Its probably the meds I research fanatically when it comes to big pharma I know its poison but when I don't take the meds I feel worse so stuck with my choice of meds or none I don't trust doctors I feel there is a paid agenda to not treat someone one off but prolong treatment for further $$ instead of curing they do the bare minimum to ensure repeat prescriptions. I might be wrong but thanks from the bottom of my heart for the thoughtful and above else helpful reply will keep you updated

[big.daddy.allan]

My friend was diagnosed with depression a few years ago. At first she was on meds but slowly got off them by doing simple the****utic activites...one of them is communicating, which is what you're doing now so that's a step forward. The second thing she started doing was training in Muay Thai and going to the gym regulary. That really helped deal with her lack of self confidence, gave her an outlet, got endorphins going and something positive to focus on. After a couple years, she was off the meds and now is a kick ass Muay Thai practioner and actually assists in training the athletes that come into the gym.

I'm sure it isn't easy as you're in a space that some of us can't relate to, however stay positive, train your ass off and keep fighting the negativity and anxiety...end of the day, if there is something combat sports teaches us, it is to keep fighting and don't quit. You got this man...go train!

[TyrantT316]

I won't pretend to be a doctor, so I am not sure I can give advice on the medical front. However two things. One is that my faith in Jesus helps me through a lot and I have seen many others overcome a lot of things (addictions, depression, etc.). Just consider it.

On the age side. You're still young. I am 34 and boy would I love to be what I was at 24. So I don't think age is your issue. You already have some boxing experience, so it's not like your 30 years old and have never trained a day in your life.

I personally feel your best bet is to find a trainer. You cannot replicate what a good trainer does for you in person. How a trainer pushes and challenges you. Someone to hold up the hits and correct your form. See things you cannot see. You're not going to get that instantaneous training online. Whether it's a local boxing gym or if you're able to somehow find a trainer in your area to have sessions with. If a gym isn't just 5-10 minutes away, but rather something more like 40,60minutes away, still consider it. Maybe it just means you primarily train at home/local, but couple or few times a month get to that boxing gym that's an hour away to put into practice what you work on at home. You might be motivated by wanting to show your progression the next time you see your trainer.

If that's not a possibility right now, one of the better things you can do is keep in shape. Jog. shadowbox. keep your muscles active with some efficient lifting (not too heavy). Write/type out a plan/routine for yourself to follow. An example might be that for round 1 you only focus on the single jab. Round 2 is the double jab. Round 3 is the jab-right. Round 4 is the jab-jab-right. Round 5 is the left hook. Round 6 is the right-left hook. Round 7 is the jab-right-left hook. Round 8 is the jab-jab-right-left hook. Round 9 is the jab-right-left hook-right-left hook. Round 10 is the jab-right-jab-right. Round 11 is the jab-right-jab-right-jab-right-lefthook-righthook-lefthook-righthook. Round 12 is simply movement, lateral, bob n weav, etc. Another session may just be jogging and jump rope. Ultimately, in the wait or search for training, you want to get your muscle memory, fitness and mind/focus back up.

Then find time to step away from your daily routine every once in a while and experience something different. Meet some people and consider avoiding isolation. It helps to be around people who lift you up. I know meeting friends is hard, but you'll need to find positive situations where you can meet people.

Motivation can be tough, but also simple. Don't overthink it. Decide that you want to be better and do more. Write out the things you KNOW you need to do to work towards achieving the goals. Then make sure you start off and focus on achieving the first stepping stone until it's complete. Then move to the next. It's a good way to track progress.

All in all, know that you have someone here praying for you in addition to giving you some loose advice.

[JonnyM]

First off, the following are just my opinion, not advice or the like.
Don't trust the doctors, many times they are just guessing and don't REALLY know what they are doing. They had me on high dose prednisone and antibiotics for 6 months, screwed me up way worse than I initially was. They misdiagnosed me and treated me with drugs that made my condition FAR worse. They treat symptoms, not causes. There is no gain for them if they cure you, but lots of gain to keep you sick for life. Doctors are in the big pharma pockets, or they're too scared to non-comply.
Do some research on what has worked for others in your situation. See what worked or helped others to get off of the meds. I dealt with brain fog for over a year, absolutely horrible, hellish. Finally feel like myself again, for the most part. You deserve to feel like yourself again too, but you have to make it happen, no one else knows EXACTLY what will work for you, least of all doctors. Be careful with whatever you decide to do, brain chemistry is nothing to play with imo. Going off your meds could be very dangerous, I'm sure at the very least would need to be tapered off over a period of time.
I would suggest looking at curezone.org forums, I was able to reclaim my health with the help of others experience on those forums. Keep on keepin on man, we're all in this together.

[Richard P]

Get yourself to a gym, doesn't have to be a thoroughbred amateur gym, but no one will laugh at you, heck, you have experience, fitness will come, reflexes will sharpen, but you have that foundation of knowledge.

I did an entire hour with 2 newbies (1st class, for them) I was off work for the day so went to a different class. All we did was slip, right hand, slip right hand. I enjoyed it even with my experience. Basics are not below anyone.

Baby steps, get your confidence back, if the gym is 40 mins away, that's a good steady jog and a 10 min walk/cool down ready for your session, if you can get to the gym fortnightly, then weekly then twice a week.

Good luck buddy, stay strong

[OctoberRed]

Id love to get back into training and fighting white collar/ semi pro throughout life I've used training to get my head together if that makes sense its my outlet for frustration on top of that I feel so unhealthy at the moment I tend to be self defeatist and wonder if it's worth it or if I can regain my drive and determination 90% of my problems are mental the tablets im on give me a permanent brain fog and I fear my brain chemistry has been irreparably altered after two years on antipsychotics

Sports, training of a regular basis, will keep your mind distracted and at bay from most evils out there. At least it does for me.