Hip twisting speed

[platinummatt]

any tips? thanks

[yrrej]

Of course. In general, power is generated by pivoting the feet, sometimes in conjunction with stepping. The power is controlled by the hips and transmitted to the hands where it is expressed. In other words, hip movement is essential to release the power to the hands. However, the hips can generate considerable power all by themselves. The shoulders and arms can also produce power. But in general a punch starts at the feet and is transmitted to the hands throught the hips.

[fraidycat]

Of course. In general, power is generated by pivoting the feet, sometimes in conjunction with stepping. The power is controlled by the hips and transmitted to the hands where it is expressed. In other words, hip movement is essential to release the power to the hands. However, the hips can generate considerable power all by themselves. The shoulders and arms can also produce power. But in general a punch starts at the feet and is transmitted to the hands throught the hips.

Wow. Nicely said.

[fraidycat]

fraidycat, i think your trainer might be worried that youre loading the hook up with too much weight...if you swing all your body weight into a hook, it leaves a big opening if you miss, and is also harder to pull back quickly.

but i definitely put some hip movement into my hooks...not so much as when i throw a straight right, but there's definitely a bit of a pivot of the feet/swing of the hips/lower torso involved.

You were right on, brother. I started back into a weightlifting gym a few weeks ago -- working mostly my legs and back (squats, deadlifts, and cleans) -- and my body mechanics had changed. Now that I'm putting my legs and hips into it instead of my hips and torso, I'm hitting like a mofo, with good form. I just needed to figure this out. Thanks, all.

[wojewodztwo_pl]

If you dont bring your hips with the hooks then your just throwing arm punches.

Rockin'

this guy is right. they would have taught you that when you throw the right hook for example, keep you small pinky finger up, and when you throw the hook, as the fist flies past your head you twist you right heel, and your hips, totally following through. its as if you just turning your whole body to the left hand side, but you have your right hand extended throwing the right hook.

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[paul750]

How many times have you heard that your hips are the source of your power?

Putting it bluntly, that is bull****. The source of your power is your body moving in a particular direction. That is the source of your momentum (power). The formula for momentum is

M = m x v

Momentum equals mass times velocity. To start with, velocity doesn't just mean speed, it means speed and direction. (It doesn't matter how fast you are moving if you are heading the wrong way). So if you weigh 150 pounds and your body is moving in one direction at 10 mph, you end up with a momentum of 1500. Now there are all kinds of little tweaks and adjustments you can do to increase that number, but they are beyond the scope of this page (2). The general idea, in order to have power everything you have has to be heading where you want it to go.

Where this idea is violated is when people try to generate power from their hips. Someone once said "It is impossible to make something fool proof because fools are so inventive." The same can apply here. There are all kinds of ways people come up with to screw up a move with their hips. The reason they are screwing up is because they are trying to make their hips the source of their power. While we cannot categorize all the interesting and unique ways that people -- believing that their hips are what give them power -- move incorrectly, we can give you a few examples.

Believing that the hips are the source of power, people quite often think that if a little hip twist is good, then a whole lot must be better. The problem with this idea is that, by over twisting their hips they are actually sending their force off in another direction. Short rule of thumb, your power is going where your ******* are pointing. People in trying to generate power from their hips, turn too much. To the point, that their bodies end up facing another direction and NOT at their opponent. This extra twist also makes it impossible to have structure if you are trying to punch straight (3).

In this over-done pose your structure cannot withstand the force you are generating. If you are punching, your arms will collapse like a spring. Yes it feels powerful, but the truth is this is only because your muscles are trying to compensate for your lack of structure. A proper hit, with your bones in alignment, your tendons and muscles able to lock them into place feels too easy! It feels as though nothing happened. That is because the force is not being diverted into your muscles, but channelled through your skeleton.

A second way that people commonly blow it is that they step into a stance, stop, and then try to start up again and generate force from their hips. They arrest the momentum they had by stepping into the stance and then try and make new momentum by twisting their hips. This behavior directly arises from thinking that power comes from the hips.

With these examples in mind let us give you a different perspective on the use of hips in power. They are not the source of power, they are an accelerator(4).

That is to say that if you are stepping at 10 mph, by twisting your hips at an additional 10 mph, you accelerate your body mass to 20 mph. This takes your force up to mass (150) x velocity (20) = Momentum (3000). The challenge is to move your hips only so far. Enough that you accelerate your momentum, but not so far that you divert your energy another direction. Which is unfortunately, what most people do when they try to generate power from their hips.

This is just a simple example of how important correct bodymovement is and why it is important to pay close attention to it in your training. There are many other things that can go wrong with how someone is moving their body -- especially if they are unconsciously doing it, as so often happens when people think they know how to generate power. Once you know what the correct bodymovement of a technique is, do not try to make it more powerful by over-doing it, such an act ends up robbing you of power rather than creating more.

*Taken from www.nononsenseselfdefense.com

He may not have been a boxer, but Macyoung knows his stuff.

[We want Floyd]

fraidycat, i think your trainer might be worried that youre loading the hook up with too much weight...if you swing all your body weight into a hook, it leaves a big opening if you miss, and is also harder to pull back quickly.

but i definitely put some hip movement into my hooks...not so much as when i throw a straight right, but there's definitely a bit of a pivot of the feet/swing of the hips/lower torso involved.

Good point, but, there's an alternative to pulling back after you punch.

Rather than pulling back/or recoil, why not bob or weave after you've missed!

I mean, missing is part of the game, it's gonna happen. There's only really two ways to go after missing your target, it's a) counter right back or b) get into a bob or weave.

Here's an example of what I'm talkin' about...

1) Lets say, you miss with your right hook, then you simply return fire with the left hook

-there's danger that he can also counter you when you're right about to fire that counter-left hook.

2nd option) Again, if you were to miss with your right hook, get right into a bob, so your not caught in "no man's land"

It usually happens with novices, right after they miss a punch, their arms and face are completely expose because they simply don't know how to react to a mistake they suddenly made or haven't been taught how to deal with missing their target.

[We want Floyd]

Back to the thread question. Yes, it's all in the hips(torque) and legs(spring).

If you wanna watch someone with great torque in his hips, watch Tiger Woods swing a golf club, watch his hips, he has alot of power in those hips. The speed in his twist of the hips is sic!

Mike Tyson also had great torque in his hips, I loved it when he would throw his left hook followed with a right hook, just watch his hips, man.

[Shadow boxer 3]

its very important. all ur power comes from ur hips and lower body. especially the left hook if ur right handed and vice versa for south paws