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  • Why don't you see more fighters turning their feet when punching?

    I have been watching boxing for 20 years now, doing muay thai for off and on 2 years, etc. Every trainer I have spoken to has mentioned turning the whole body with the punches. Such as if you throw the left hook, you should rotate your body on your toes.

    However, you see a lot of pros don't do this...why is that? Is it a bad habit or am I missing something? Just rotating the hips seems would cause knee issues (I have torn meniscus in both knees) so can't afford more knee issues

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    Originally posted by Metho_4u View Post
    I have been watching boxing for 20 years now, doing muay thai for off and on 2 years, etc. Every trainer I have spoken to has mentioned turning the whole body with the punches. Such as if you throw the left hook, you should rotate your body on your toes.

    However, you see a lot of pros don't do this...why is that? Is it a bad habit or am I missing something? Just rotating the hips seems would cause knee issues (I have torn meniscus in both knees) so can't afford more knee issues
    I was first taught striking by a MT coach and he had me turning the left foot on the left hook. Couple years later, my boxing coach spotted this immediately and made me stop it. He got me to plant the and just "roll" (I hate that term because it sounds like an injury) the foot just a little. It's just a sort of shifting of weight without making your shoe break grip.

    I was really skeptical at first but after getting used to it for a year, WOW. My left hook done MT style really had no power because you can't generate power from the floor up if you're breaking your shoe's grip and turning. You're spinning more than thrusting. By keeping the foot connected it allowed me to start pulling that left hook power from my legs and hips, rather than just my arms, and the power became soooo much more significant.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
      By keeping the foot connected it allowed me to start pulling that left hook power from my legs and hips, rather than just my arms, and the power became soooo much more significant.
      Tru dat..............

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
        I was first taught striking by a MT coach and he had me turning the left foot on the left hook. Couple years later, my boxing coach spotted this immediately and made me stop it. He got me to plant the and just "roll" (I hate that term because it sounds like an injury) the foot just a little. It's just a sort of shifting of weight without making your shoe break grip.

        I was really skeptical at first but after getting used to it for a year, WOW. My left hook done MT style really had no power because you can't generate power from the floor up if you're breaking your shoe's grip and turning. You're spinning more than thrusting. By keeping the foot connected it allowed me to start pulling that left hook power from my legs and hips, rather than just my arms, and the power became soooo much more significant.
        Hmmm, very interesting. Seems like the knees would be prone to tearing, but I guess not
        Last edited by Metho_4u; 04-06-2017, 06:22 AM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Metho_4u View Post
          Hmmm, very interesting. Seems like the knees would be prone to tearing, but I guess nor
          You turn your knee going into it. Definitely needs to be part of your footwork. You can even turn your foot a bit as you do it, you just can't do the light-footed spin and expect to generate true power.

          Tyson is one of the best to watch when it comes to the left hook, IMO. Really used his legs and hips. Canelo's another. His are quicker and tighter.
          Last edited by Redd Foxx; 04-06-2017, 06:24 AM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
            You turn your knee going into it. Definitely needs to be part of your footwork. You can even turn your foot a bit as you do it, you just can't do the light-footed spin and expect to generate true power.

            Tyson is one of the best to watch when it comes to the left hook, IMO. Really used his legs and hips. Canelo's another. His are quicker and tighter.
            I see, well I'll work on adjusting that a bit. Will be weird, but it seemed strange that no one I watched was doing it the same way, now I know why. Thanks!

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            • #7
              the pros don't do it as much bc you lose the speed when turning the foot properly and shifting the whole body. i say lose speed in the sense that a lot of counter shots have to be thrown really fast with no time to set your feet and turn.there is still plenty of explosive snap, but if you notice when they set up the knock out shot, they do turn the hips and feet.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
                I was first taught striking by a MT coach and he had me turning the left foot on the left hook. Couple years later, my boxing coach spotted this immediately and made me stop it. He got me to plant the and just "roll" (I hate that term because it sounds like an injury) the foot just a little. It's just a sort of shifting of weight without making your shoe break grip.
                Lol, your story is literally the same as mine. Started at an MMA gym about 12 years ago (they center their striking around MT typically, especially back then). Had a couple fights there, got my ass whooped, took myself to a real boxing gym and they showed to not pivot the front foot. Works wonders. Also watching Ray Robinson (how that gym modeled their own boxing formula) reinforced the idea. Another perfect example.

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                • #9
                  Because the current fighters are gravitating towards a faster fight rather than being grounded in their strikes, It all began with Paqciao.
                  Last edited by Rockin'; 04-11-2017, 09:58 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BG_Knocc_Out View Post
                    Lol, your story is literally the same as mine. Started at an MMA gym about 12 years ago (they center their striking around MT typically, especially back then). Had a couple fights there, got my ass whooped, took myself to a real boxing gym and they showed to not pivot the front foot. Works wonders. Also watching Ray Robinson (how that gym modeled their own boxing formula) reinforced the idea. Another perfect example.
                    LoL how interesting, I also started to learn at a MT gym bcz there wasn't no boxing gym. I remember they told me to pivot the front foot with lead hook and pivot the back foot with straight right. I had been doing it for a time probably but now I realize I dropped that habbit somewhere, even though no one told me to do so.
                    Boxers when shooting the right don't apparently or clearly pivot their back foot, it's already facing the opponent most of the time and helping the body bouncing off the floor when shooting, so it's pushing down and releasing.
                    And in MT they, now I remember, pivot their lead foot w lead hook even though they don't load/shift weight on the lead foot. And they are also pivoting w jab and most of the time jabbing w their weight on the back leg and lead foot toe on ground. I think it's all due to their MT stances, you know, tapping to the floor with lead foot toe and lead hand dangling outside

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