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  • How long should a long hook be?

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    A normal hook is 90 degrees however many greats like RJJ and Sugar Ray Robinson use a much longer version with great success. It may even be the superior way to hook contrary to textbook advice.


    My question is does the long hook have to be 135 degrees?

    Or is a 170 degree hook arm almost outstretched just as likely to KO if it lands?

    It SEEMS although im not sure that RJJ and others e.g. Morrison can make the long hook effective at 170 degrees which is almost an out stretched arm.

    Most boxing purists would call that a swing, but it seems they can make an effective punch at this range that isnt a swing.


    Here is a famous and very effective Russian MMA fighter, same long hooks really long, he as a short low reach fighter is using hooks from the outside vs straight punches at almost straight punch range. Hows that for non textbook fighting! Its highly effective too!

    Last edited by AlexKid; 03-28-2017, 02:35 PM.

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    Ideally a hook is a short, quick punch, palms facing the floor when executed properly. The further out you throw the hook, you should be turning your wrist so that the palm is facing opponent or parallel with the wall. Unless you have cat-like reflexes or you are fighting someone with limited counter-punching skills, reserve your hook for in-fighting and close contact. Otherwise you are too exposed the further out you throw it.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
      Ideally a hook is a short, quick punch, palms facing the floor when executed properly. The further out you throw the hook, you should be turning your wrist so that the palm is facing opponent or parallel with the wall. Unless you have cat-like reflexes or you are fighting someone with limited counter-punching skills, reserve your hook for in-fighting and close contact. Otherwise you are too exposed the further out you throw it.
      loads of high level guys wo cat like reflexes use this hook with great success

      norton, rjj, morison, srr, etc

      troll? ******?

      ****** troll!!!!
      Last edited by AlexKid; 03-31-2017, 04:56 PM.

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      • #4
        From anywhere in right field coming in hard over the top. Get your elbow up at least to chin height and chop down with that nasty beast................

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        • #5
          Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
          Ideally a hook is a short, quick punch, palms facing the floor when executed properly. The further out you throw the hook, you should be turning your wrist so that the palm is facing opponent or parallel with the wall. Unless you have cat-like reflexes or you are fighting someone with limited counter-punching skills, reserve your hook for in-fighting and close contact. Otherwise you are too exposed the further out you throw it.
          Palm parallel with the walls? Pure, quick pitty pat slapping punches. Turn that **** over, finish the shot.

          And to heck with for in fighting only, let that thing rip. Set it up as you need

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          • #6
            I havent boxed as an amateur or anything but I did box in the service.


            I always threw my hook very close and short
            Last edited by Beercules; 03-31-2017, 10:30 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Beercules View Post
              I havent boxed as an amateur or anything but I did box in the service.


              I always threw my hook very close and short
              Watch Ray Robinson work his hooks. .............

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Rockin' View Post
                Palm parallel with the walls? Pure, quick pitty pat slapping punches. Turn that **** over, finish the shot.

                And to heck with for in fighting only, let that thing rip. Set it up as you need
                Makes very little difference in power, which way you hold your fist is negligible!

                Its your hips leg and body weight, and delivering the power, fist horizontal; or vertical is a tiny difference in transfer efficiency.

                Brutal hookers use both methods to great success through out history, because its not about how they hold the fist

                Am I right?

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                • #9
                  Fuçk it, go full 180°. Straighten your arm all the way, and windmill that sh it out there

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by AlexKid View Post
                    Makes very little difference in power, which way you hold your fist is negligible!

                    Its your hips leg and body weight, and delivering the power, fist horizontal; or vertical is a tiny difference in transfer efficiency.

                    Brutal hookers use both methods to great success through out history, because its not about how they hold the fist

                    Am I right?
                    so your telling me that a wrist alone will generate more power than a wrist aligned with what's generating the power? You are dead wrong on that........ If you turn the shot over everything is perfectly aligned and generating power from your feet through the body and to the fist
                    Last edited by Rockin'; 04-01-2017, 08:17 AM.

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