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  • Training Advices for Slenders, Slicks, Skinnies!

    Are you that guy who can't put on muscle or fat?
    Are you that guy who looks like having some sticks attached to your body instead of limbs?
    I bet you are fed up with bullsh1ite like that when you tell someone you do a little boxing and that say some sh"it like: "Oh really? You don't look like it, you look skinny, where are the muscles then?"
    Our Body Type
    Guys, first thing we need to recognize is our body type. There are three basic body types: Ectomorphs (we slenders), endomorphs (small and built guys like Mike Tyson), and mesomophs (btw the two, mediocre body measures)

    Ectomorphs
    We ectomorphs have everything long. Long limbs, long legs, long neck...
    Even though even if we eat or train much more than other people, our body mass doesn't really changes. An endomoprh, a short guy with short limbs gains both fat and muscle much more easier than us. Once we build up our muscle mass and reach the fitness level, we don't easily gain or lose, it is very stable, unless you go into some crazy bodybuilding program to move up.
    Another fact is that, for we have long limbs our muscles look less because it covers a longer area. Guys with short limbs look more muscular becase their arm is short and they can easily squeeze and flex it. So stop desparing on it.
    Compare Tommy Hearns with Pipino (a mesomorph)

    Bags, Ropes, Running, Weights
    Even though we don't feel it, by doing certain excercizes again and again, we progressively break our body down. Each time we punch a bag, lift something or jump our body absorbs some of the impact, pressure and stress. Longevity is important.

    Bags: Since you have small wrists you should not apply much power on bags. I advise you to stay off them if possible or not to train for more than 2 to 3 rounds. Don't ever apply much power on it consequently. Go for straight shots rather than hooks. Hooks damage our thin bones the most. Each time we hit it we hit ourselves. The bag rebounds the shock and sends back the shock primarily our fingers, hand, wrist and elbow. You don't ever see Floyd hitting hard on the bag.
    Jump Ropes: Jump ropes are fun and cool but it also hurts you in a way you might not imagine. Due to jumping on surface constantly, our shins and knees absorb the pressure and day by day break down. I advice not to jump longer than 2 to 3 rounds and doing something else than jumping for legs and warming up in the next trainging session. You can run but try not to overdoing it.
    I've been with the double end bag, much more realistic, harder, makes you faster, and is functional. 100x better than punching a rag bag. Pacquiao also always trains on them:

    Weights: Don't try to lift heavy as others do, remember the brittle joints. Heavy weights really give pain to the joints and easily tear muscles. Afterall lifting isn't necessary for boxing. I use 1 kg (2lbs) dumbells for shadowboxing, and 5 kg (11-10 lbs) dumbells for arms. Even push ups will do. Slicks never lift anything heavy. They do push ups, chin ups etc.
    When squating make sure you have the proper posture (esp. knees not past feet) and stop before you feel pain in your knees.
    Boxing Style
    Our advantages: Reach, powerful straights, speed, slickness, outside fighting.
    Disadvantages: Not so effective inside, not so fast and powerful hooks, can get pushed back.

    The worst thing people with slender bodies trying to do is looking at some guy with completely opposite physique and adopting his style. If you are trying to with like Chavez, Tyson, Frazier and wonder why it's not working now you know. They are basically inside fighting styles, which are remedies for slicks like us. One of the best slender idols you can look after is Tommy Hearns I think.

    You must understand that you have the reach advantage and fast. Our straights are better than any others'. Esp the jab. Jab to head, jab to body, lead right, controlling with the lead are your best weapons. Don't commit hooks to head or body unless you are bombarding idk somehow Pot shotting style, straights can be trained to be so strong (again I have to mention Hearns).
    Defensive moves: You have advantage when it comes to slipping, ducking, pulling, lateral movement and dancing away. But avoid rolling because you can't easily get your long torso and head away from someone at your nose. It there is distance then you can roll maybe and it's cool but no good when they are close to you. Another defensive movement you should avoid is covering up. Never ever cover up before an attacking guy if you have some other choice. When you cover your head your body is open, your ribs are weak. When they hit your head and you block with the gloves you still absorb the impact on your brain and body and longer you are easier lose balance when covering up.

    So What ***head?
    Some good fighters with ectomorph bodies I learn from are Roger Mayweather, Junior Jones, Pretty Boy Floyd, Lara, Paulie Malignaggi.
    I used to train like 5 rounds of rope jumping, 40 mins running, 30 mins on bag, shadowboxing, squats, weights.... I just couldn't see that I was breaking down my body progressively with wrong methods.
    I ended up getting:
    A tore meniscus in the right knee, badly hurt both shins, blisters under feet's skin, almost broken wrist, badly hurt hand, fingers, elbow, back problems, shins so bad that I couldn't walk, possibly tore calves...
    It took my body literally months to heal up everything. Luckliy didn't break anything but some things never heal, esp joints, my tore meniscus won't heal.
    In other words: whip-like power to the point, less pressure on body. I hope you learn from my past foolishness and avoid doing certain things.
    Last edited by DinoCop; 01-23-2017, 02:52 PM.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Rovi View Post
    Bags: Since you have small wrists you should not apply much power on bags. I advise you to stay off them if possible or not to train for more than 2 to 3 rounds. Don't ever apply much power on it consequently. Go for straight shots rather than hooks. Hooks damage our thin bones the most. Each time we hit it we hit ourselves. The bag rebounds the shock and sends back the shock primarily our fingers, hand, wrist and elbow. You don't ever see Floyd hitting hard on the bag.
    Jump Ropes: Jump ropes are fun and cool but it also hurts you in a way you might not imagine. Due to jumping on surface constantly, our shins and knees absorb the pressure and day by day break down. I advice not to jump longer than 2 to 3 rounds and doing something else than jumping for legs and warming up in the next trainging session. You can run but try not to overdoing it.
    I've been with the double end bag, much more realistic, harder, makes you faster, and is functional. 100x better than punching a rag bag. Pacquiao also always trains on them:
    You bring up some excellent points that get ignored too often. There's this ignorant machismo that you must be able to go 100% on a 150lb bag with cheap gloves or you're just a p^ssy. Fact is, some bone structures can't take it. I trained with several good coaches, working specifically on technique but my strength will always out-power my tall/lean frame and I have to be very careful. I use the best gloves I can get, along with knuckle guards, and sometimes two wraps, and can still hurt myself if I go full-power.

    Same with knee joints. I don't run because it grinds away at my knees. I've found I can jump rope so long as I'm careful to absorb the stock by landing with toes first and letting the foot act like a spring.

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    • #3
      Good Post Ravi!

      For skinny guys trying to gain some muscle they should start off with calisthenics and once they can do a good amount of push ups, bodyweight squats, and running, they should move onto weights. Lifting weights forced my body to put on muscle in a way. As long as the weight on the bar is increasing so will muscle mass.

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      • #4
        Thanks guys, I appreciate your interest and I'm glad.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
          You bring up some excellent points that get ignored too often. There's this ignorant machismo that you must be able to go 100% on a 150lb bag with cheap gloves or you're just a p^ssy. Fact is, some bone structures can't take it. I trained with several good coaches, working specifically on technique but my strength will always out-power my tall/lean frame and I have to be very careful. I use the best gloves I can get, along with knuckle guards, and sometimes two wraps, and can still hurt myself if I go full-power.
          Yes so true, there are facts and nonsense and some ppl go with the latter, machos are driven by useless emotions, not rational ideas.
          I also think that I can generate much more power than my body can handle. I use mexican handwraps (3000 cm) and good gloves but I end up gettin hurt. I strongly recommend a double-ended bag. I attach mine on doorway pull up bar and dumbell.

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          • #6
            This is a great post.

            I can 100% attest to this as I am an Ectomorph who began suffering the consequences by the time I was 20. Although, there's more to it than just basic templates for body structures, this is certainly valid.

            I was 5'8 fighting at 112-119. Always been physically big for my class. I also found that for my size I could generate a lot of power. The issue with that was I got so enamored with my own power that all I cared about on the heavy bag was hearing the sound of leather popping between my gloves and the bag.

            As soon as I got off active duty my body was so broken between all the self-inflicted physical abuse in boxing, as well as the wear and tear the Army put me under. Had to stop fighting, and unfortunately halted my pro transition.

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            • #7
              Real good post...
              A lot of taught and effort gone into it,
              Skinnys will appreciate it

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              • #8
                txh everyone for commnets, upupup

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