Which is more powerful? Why dont 99% of pro boxers deep their knee very far?

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  • AlexKid
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    Which is more powerful? Why dont 99% of pro boxers deep their knee very far?

    Here this boxer dips his knee to almost 90 degree's, I think this way is more powerful, because its more sturdy, and the muscle fibers of the butt and legs are in better alignment




    But heres how most of the pros do it. They only dip their rear knee a tiny bit even crouching fighters like Marciano and Tyson and even when tall fighters go to the body. Marciano only bends his rear leg to about 135 degrees and he goes deeper than most.



    Why do they do it this way its weaker!?

    You wouldnt push a car or sprint from a start position faster with a stiff leg than a 90 degree bent leg, so why dont they dip the knee more?
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    #2
    90 degree rear leg



    vs

    135 degree leg

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    • Mr.MojoRisin'
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      #3
      It's not about which is stronger. It is about leverage. A fighter who has his weight on the right legs when throwing the right hand isn't going to score a knockout anyway.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Mr.DagoWop
        It's not about which is stronger. It is about leverage. A fighter who has his weight on the right legs when throwing the right hand isn't going to score a knockout anyway.
        Well both methods keep the weight back till the hips transfer it forward thats completely besides the point isnt it?

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          #5
          Originally posted by AlexKid
          Here this boxer dips his knee to almost 90 degree's, I think this way is more powerful, because its more sturdy, and the muscle fibers of the butt and legs are in better alignment




          But heres how most of the pros do it. They only dip their rear knee a tiny bit even crouching fighters like Marciano and Tyson and even when tall fighters go to the body. Marciano only bends his rear leg to about 135 degrees and he goes deeper than most.



          Why do they do it this way its weaker!?

          You wouldnt push a car or sprint from a start position faster with a stiff leg than a 90 degree bent leg, so why dont they dip the knee more?
          Grant it the leverage and sturdier position would create a harder punch, that same position would also leave him open for a counter punch if that guy wouldve slipped that punch correctly lol

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          • AlexKid
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            #6
            Originally posted by Boxfan83
            Grant it the leverage and sturdier position would create a harder punch, that same position would also leave him open for a counter punch if that guy wouldve slipped that punch correctly lol
            would it? The 90 degree leg goes very well with the duck, and doesn't really leave you any more open than the other method? How is he more open?

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            • Mr.MojoRisin'
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              #7
              Originally posted by AlexKid
              Well both methods keep the weight back till the hips transfer it forward thats completely besides the point isnt it?
              Uhh what?

              It only has to do with leverage. Personal preference really.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Mr.DagoWop
                Uhh what?

                It only has to do with leverage. Personal preference really.
                what do you mean by leverage exactly?

                The 90 degree leg has more leverage or they both have equal leverage and the 90 degree leg adds more power to the equal leverages
                Last edited by AlexKid; 09-20-2016, 06:33 PM.

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                • Redd Foxx
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                  FFS... it's less about strength and more about footwork. In the first gif, he's going under and shooting overhand at a very close distance. The footwork and body movement dictates the leg extension.

                  In your pic (below) his legs are wide apart and if he bent his knee it would have changed the nature of the punch and put him in a completely different position had he missed. He's choosing to keep a more upright and mobile stance.


                  Practice good form. If you ever spar you'll get to adapt your punches and footwork to the scenario. You can't watch vids and say, "This punch was more powerful because he bent his knee." Doesn't work like that. Just being in position to land that punch with power is an infinitely larger challenge. Focus on basics and forget hypothetical minutia.
                  Last edited by Redd Foxx; 09-20-2016, 06:35 PM.

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                  • AlexKid
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Redd Foxx
                    FFS... it's less about strength and more about footwork. In the first gif, he's going under and shooting overhand at a very close distance. The footwork and body movement dictates the leg extension.

                    In your pic (below) his legs are wide apart and if he bent his knee it would have changed the nature of the punch and put him in a completely different position had he missed. He's choosing to keep a more upright and mobile stance.


                    Practice good form. If you ever spar you'll get to adapt your punches and footwork to the scenario. You can't watch vids and say, "This punch was more powerful because he bent his knee." Doesn't work like that. Just being in position to land that punch with power is an infinitely larger challenge. Focus on basics and forget hypothetical minutia.
                    99% of all pro boxers use the minimal knee dip version, in all scenarios, they arnt used interchangeably depending on position, I had to look through alot of pictures before I could find anyone that did it with a 90 degree bend

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